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Post by UncleVinny on Dec 3, 2004 13:52:40 GMT -5
Oooh, I can just FEEEEL the Love!
People like that end up in a cultist religious "compound" filled with guns and lookin' over their shoulders for "revenoors!" What a joke. ;D L'l Abner on steroids.
The REAL threat to America comes not from leftists, but self-serving right-wing politicians who run up the budget deficit so their wealthy friends can milk more out of the working class. Now the US dollar is plunging because investors feel there is no way to pull America back from bankruptcy with the shrub policies. Worse yet, illiterate sheep are scared of a few equally dumb terrors, quiver in their fear . . . "Ohh, Scary: Take our money! Take our boys to war!"
They say the best revenge is to live a good life.
Well, gotta go, that hash pipe needs attention, ha, ha!
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Post by Patriot on Dec 3, 2004 13:54:51 GMT -5
We'll see how hard you're laughing when you're baking.  |
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Post by moonotmo on Dec 3, 2004 14:05:02 GMT -5
And who gives a pidly crap what the British think. People who aren't stupid, selfish and stubborn enough to actually give a damn about how their actions affect the world. Should I give a crap what anyone outside my own borders thinks about my country? Of course I should. I want my country to actually have a positive effect on the planet; not the opposite. Unfortunately, I cannot say I am proud of our actions in a certain middle-eastern country as of late, and I am aware that people in other countrys aren't impressed with my country's decision either. Whether I agree with their opinions or not, I'm not going to run them off saying I don't care what they think. We already know their sorry character in warfare. Awh, that's sweet.  Why consult an old enemy that we've beaten twice? We're not enemies any more; get over it. Why would it matter if we used to be enemies or not? We're not now. That shouldn't even be an issue. As if we need the advice of some panzy "honorable mister" in Parliament to dictate our national agenda. Who the hell said anything to that effect?! No-one dictates your national agenda; but we're more than justified in expressing our opinion about it. Well done. That paragraph was an excellent display of your stubbornness, and complete stupidity. This is the third American I've come across on this forum who has gone on about how no-one outside of their own country matters. I can only hope that this proportion isn't true for your entire country, because its complete wankers like yourself that prove to the rest of the world just how stupid some Americans like youself are. Idiot. Complete, *censored*ing, idiot. (...) the porkheaded Muslims who stake their lives on the lies of Islam (...) What a truely sick, disgusting person you really are. Freedom of religion? Nah, let's just throw that little idea out the window, eh? |
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Post by Patriot on Dec 3, 2004 14:12:13 GMT -5
Moon boy, This may come as a shock to you but I prefer to be politically direct instead of politically correct. What a truely sick, disgusting person you really are. Freedom of religion? Nah, let's just throw that little idea out the window, eh? Sick and disgusting for telling the truth? What should I have said instead? "Those glorious, highly technological Muslims who follow the truths of Islam"? Give me a break. The people are backward and believers of nonsense. I don't care what they do in England (although you should be aware that most British are becoming tired of them), but here in the US, we tell it like it is. |
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Post by moonotmo on Dec 3, 2004 14:42:18 GMT -5
Sick and disgusting for telling the truth? The "lies of Islam" you spoke of could be said about any religion. That's why religions are religions - people are said to "have faith" in them, even though there may not be any solid proof for - or against - any of them. Islam is no more lies than any other religion. To single it out as you did was completely unjustified. What should I have said instead? "Those glorious, highly technological Muslims who follow the truths of Islam"? Give me a break. How about you don't say anything about Islam? Is Islam the "true" religion, or is it a pack of lies? People will have their own opinion of that, clearly, but you ranting out about how "porket Muslims steak their lives on the lies of Islam" is extremely sick. If I were a Muslim and you told me that to my face, expect a swift punch in the nose in return. The people are backward and believers of nonsense. So are Christians. (No, I don't actually believe that. It was attempt to show that Islam isn't any worse than any other religion, but I have no doubt that someone may have misinterpretted that alone.) I don't care what they do in England (although you should be aware that most British are becoming tired of them), Where the heck did you hear that nonsense? Fox news? Every single person I know of here in the UK fully accepts Islam, and have no hateful feelings towards muslims at all. There are some who are hateful towards them, but these people are usually frowned upon. The British National Party fit the description of the people who do not like Islam as well as blacks most. This party has been exposed a number of times for where they would truely like to lead the country if they were to be elected (not a chance in hell). A number of documentries on TV here have shown footage of people high up in the BNP who talked about killing non-whites, and how they have been involved in violence in the past regarding these beliefs. I, and many others, think they are truely disgusting people, and I have no sympathy should a BNP member - or voter - get hit by a bus tomorrow. In fact, I hope they do. Their beliefs belong back in the 1900s, not in the year 2004. |
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Post by Patriot on Dec 3, 2004 14:57:53 GMT -5
Moon Boy,
Your comments are numbered.
1. "The "lies of Islam" you spoke of could be said about any religion. That's why religions are religions. People are said to "have faith" in them, even though there may not be any solid proof for, or against, any of them. Islam is no more lies than any other religion. To single it out as you did was completely unjustified".
Unjustified? I don't think so. It is the only religion in the world to advocate violence, not indirectly in the annals of its development (although there is plenty of that) but through texts which vest the modern Muslim to wreak havoc on all who disbelieve the lies of its religion. In fact, it specifically states in the Koran that all infidels-- including Christians and Jews-- are to be targeted.
2. "How about you don't say anything about Islam?"
How about you shut the hell up. Here in America we have the freedom of speech (1st amendment), thanks to a victory over your Hanoverian king, George III. We are more than at liberty to discuss and condemn the atrocities wrought by these backward swine. We are not afraid to open either our mouths or our arsenals. The country belongs to us, not you, or them. Always has, always will.
3. "Is Islam the "true" religion, or is it a pack of lies? People will have their own opinion of that.
Believe it or not, there is a such a thing as subjective truth. It comes into play on matters like gravity, for instance, and it comes into play here as well. Islam is false. Plain and simple.
4. "ranting out about how "porket Muslims steak their lives on the lies of Islam" is extremely sick."
This is a rant web for conservative Americans, isn't it? If you don't like it, go elsewhere. I don't care whether you think my comments are sick or not. You didn't even quote me correctly. I said, "those pork-headed Muslims who stake their lives on the lies of Islam".
5. "If I were a Muslim and you told me that to my face, expect a swift punch in the nose in return."
I only wish you were a Muslim and were in front of my face right now. Not only would I speak those very words, I'd also pull a Kabar and make you choke on your own tongue.
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Post by Patriot on Dec 3, 2004 15:24:39 GMT -5
Every single person I know of here in the UK fully accepts Islam, If that's true than I fear for England. You want to talk about ideas that belong "back in the 1900s"? Well, the ideas of Islam-- including the veiling of women, the beheading of unbelievers, etc, belong back in the 6th century A.D. And "everyone you know in the UK fully accepts Islam". You're such a coward, bending before these ignorant heathen. You disgust me. So easily misled by the liberal media and not caring at all for your own homeland or its traditional values. Ha, you must live in Manchester. |
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Post by moonotmo on Dec 3, 2004 17:19:07 GMT -5
Unjustified? I don't think so. It is the only religion in the world to advocate violence, not indirectly in the annals of its development (although there is plenty of that) but through texts which vest the modern Muslim to wreak havoc on all who disbelieve the lies of its religion. In fact, it specifically states in the Koran that all infidels-- including Christians and Jews-- are to be targeted. Ah, yes. All these muslims I see runing around wreaking havoc on me. I have not met a single muslim who has tried being violent towards me, oddly enough. Of course, there are islamic extremists - such as some of the people providing the resistance in Iraq. These are the people who are willing to kill others for their religion. Killing other people for your own religion isn't necessarily a good thing to do... But these people shouldn't be confused with the everyday muslims who play a constructive part of communities and society. They aren't running around attacking everyone they see. How about you shut the hell up. How about no. Here in America we have the freedom of speech (1st amendment), thanks to a victory over your Hanoverian king, George III. Of course you are. But that doesn't mean you can dismiss the consequences of what you say. You don't have to praise Islam, but you shouldn't shunt it either. You may have freedom of speach, but you could at least be responsible with it. We are more than at liberty to discuss and condemn the atrocities wrought by these backward swine. Backwards swine? Let's call Christians backward swine as well! Or are Christians free from being generalized as such? We are not afraid to open either our mouths or our arsenals. The country belongs to us, not you, or them. Always has, always will. "Or them"? Let's get this straight; if there's an American whose religion happens to be Islam, would you consider your country belonging to them? Islam is false. Plain and simple. Says who? You didn't even quote me correctly. I said, "those pork-headed Muslims who stake their lives on the lies of Islam". Looking back at it, I realize that what I quoted doesn't necessarily mean the same as what you actually said. Apologies. I only wish you were a Muslim and were in front of my face right now. Not only would I speak those very words, I'd also pull a Kabar and make you choke on your own tongue. You civilized person, you. You want to talk about ideas that belong "back in the 1900s"? Well, the ideas of Islam-- including the veiling of women, the beheading of unbelievers, etc, belong back in the 6th century A.D. The ideas of accepting other people's religion into society, and tolerating other people's beliefs seems to be the current trend over here. If that's what they believe, so be it. The beheading of unbelievers is just plain wrong, but then again, it has been a while since a muslim grabbed me and tried chopping my head off. You're such a coward, bending before these ignorant heathen. No I'm not. I'm accepting that they belong to a civilized religion, and have every right to do so. I disgust you for being tolerant towards people of other religions? So easily misled by the liberal media (...) You're so easily misled by the republican media. Nur. Don't "liberal media" me. I don't just watch one source for news. I don't believe the first thing I hear. If there is a topic in the media that interests me, I actually bother to try and research into it. Is this "liberal media" you speak of some scary organization that is fair and balanced to people regardless of religion? Oh my, that is bad! (...) and not caring at all for your own homeland or its traditional values. My values, as far as muslims are concerned, are accepting them into society and not discriminating against them because of their religion. I didn't realize that my country's traditional values are to do the opposite; descriminate against people because of their religion. Maybe we ought to start deporting muslims out of our country whilst we wave our miniature flags. Ha, you must live in Manchester. Ha, no. |
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Post by Patriot on Dec 3, 2004 17:38:50 GMT -5
Anyone interested in watching Islamic beheading videos can access them on the link below. Be sure to get full volume and stay tuned to the entire tapes, as the animals usually take five minutes or longer to finish reading their divine mandates for the administration of "justice". Do not be perturbed if you see a dead body shaking; that is normal after a head is cut off along with inordinant amounts of blood. caspuh.com/pivot/entry.php?id=115#bodyMoon Boy, I've had enough of your British bullcrap for one day. I'm only too thankful that your words hold absolutely no clout in world affairs. Any militant liberal or Muslim who wants a piece of me can publicly request my address, which I will post. Come and knock on my door. Leave your last will and testament in the care of a loved one, as you will not be returning home. |
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Post by moonotmo on Dec 3, 2004 17:52:01 GMT -5
Anyone interested in watching Islamic beheading videos can access them on the link below. Be sure to get full volume and stay tuned to the entire tapes, as the animals usually take five minutes or longer to finish reading their divine mandates for the administration of "justice". Do not be perturbed if you see a dead body shaking; that is normal after a head is cut off along with inordinant amounts of blood. ... But these people shouldn't be confused with the everyday muslims who play a constructive part of communities and society. They aren't running around attacking everyone they see. |
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Post by Patriot on Dec 3, 2004 18:02:19 GMT -5
Why are you so quick to defend these people? Aren't you aware that a peaceful Muslim is a potential bomb waiting to explode? They all read the same religious text. I could post portions of it if anyone wants to see what the Koran actually says. Islam is not at all a civilized religion, nor is it in step with the modern world as is both Judaism and Christianity.Those who say otherwise, like Moon Boy, are ignorant. It will take an attack in his backyard before he manages to pull his dick out of his partner's rear-end and wake up to smell the roses.
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Post by moonotmo on Dec 3, 2004 18:22:52 GMT -5
Why are you so quick to defend these people? Because they are no worse than anyone else. Aren't you aware that a peaceful Muslim is a potential bomb waiting to explode? Well if you're going to put it like that, anyone could be a potential bomb waiting to explode. There's nothing about muslims specifically that make them suddenly wake up one day and say "hey, I'm going to start killing people today." They all read the same religious text. I could post portions of it if anyone wants to see what the Koran actually says. Please do; I'm interested. Islam is not at all a civilized religion, Ordinary muslims are civilized people. I very much doubt your claim of Islam not at all being a civilized religion, but heck - even if it was uncivilized, muslims themselves are civilized, as much as other people are - regardless of what their religion teaches. (...) nor is it in step with the modern world as is both Judaism and Christianity. Why not? Because your beliefs don't agree? Those who say otherwise, like Moon Boy, are ignorant. Ignorant to what? I've yet to be satisfied with any kind of argument you've put fourth so far. In fact, I'm still trying to work out the logic behind your viewpoint. I think it's along the lines of: Islam teaches a few bad things, therefore, every muslim is evil, and they intend to kill us all.In which case, that's quite some leap in logic there, that I'm failing to follow. It will take an attack in his backyard before he manages to pull his dick out of his partner's rear-end and wake up to smell the roses. If an attack happens in my backyard, I wouldn't suddenly think "Oh my goodness, muslims have just attacked my backyard!!!" Anyone could have pulled it off, muslim or not. |
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Post by Patriot on Dec 3, 2004 18:32:19 GMT -5
No worse than anyone else? You must have missed the Beheading link. Scroll back, watch the videos, then tell me what other religion currently endorses such a practice in the name of God.
Moon Boy, I'm glad that you've made as big a mess of this issue as you have. I should really be thanking you. Because, I am now finally going to open a thread of comparison and contrasts between the religious texts of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Verbatim. Not only will I show that Islam is behind modernity vis-a-vis its despicable religious practices, as in the case of beheadings and keeping women veiled, but I will also show--concretely--that the Islamic writings pose an interminable barrier to social progress, and that they are more restrictive than what is required or authorized in Hebraic and Christian texts.
You've said enough for today and like most liberals, have chosen to gloss over the most pertinent information, committing gross equivocation between Islam and other religions whose belief structures are nothing akin to the violence advocated by the Medina Monstors. So be it. At least the conservatives on this board will soon have enough information at their disposal to prove their points to individuals more concerned with obtaining the facts than defending a worn-out theory of tolerance for idiocy run amok.
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Post by BOLO on Dec 3, 2004 19:29:52 GMT -5
First let me say that moonie has hurt my feelings.  She/it won't deign to reply to my post. Too good you know.  (Truth s she/it couldn't.} {Didn't have the answers} Then let me say that both moonie and vinny are complete waste of time and effort. ;D If you were posting to someone with sense and logic, someone that could understand and comprehend out side borders of their self made and induced fantasies, then you might have something.  vinny will not respond directly to questions or request for him/it to produce proof or evidence that can back up his asinine statements. Instead he prefers to go off at the oblique and continue to make provocative non supportable left wing loser nonsense, (Note to moonie. Shove it) {Your reply is/will be, the expected Pavlovian reflex reaction.} As to moonie. A belief that she/it is better and more knowledgeable than anyone else is self evident, as is her lack of education and intelligence. Her world is colored and contained by the parameters she/it established for her self in her liberal induced world of doom and gloom. (Another note to moonie, I told you if you want to believe the sky is falling do so. England is a Semi Free Country you can still freely, without fear, be a complete and total idiot and suffer no consequences.) Now as to not responding. Very well you have established your position. So be it. Will others also find themselves on your list for not agreeing with you? If so you will soon be posting to yourself. I told you some time back you were in over your head. You are indeed a poor loser. When confronted you digress or retreat. I told you then I was not going back to that thread and I never did. I now leave you in this thread for anyone that desires to post to and with you on this thread. It is a waste of time as you have nothing to offer. |
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Post by UncleVinny on Dec 3, 2004 19:38:39 GMT -5
Good job, Moon, Patriot. You've managed to salvage a decent debate out of a hate fest. There are actual exchanges of letigimate arguments here. How refreshing. I'm serious. That's the true pupose of a forum. Guess I'll bow out, for a while anyway, while the discussion is on a high note. I have to apologize for whipping the combatants into a frenzy - you know how easy it is!!, but then again, I try to remember that a dialogue is more productive than a shouting match. Cheers all!  |
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