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Post by UncleVinny on Nov 28, 2004 11:35:13 GMT -5
I was like you . . . : Conservative You will be like me : Liberal I was like you . . . : Filled with hate You will be like me : In love I was like you . . . : Anxious You will be like me : at peace I was like you . . . : Uninformed You will be like me : Enlightened Hey, pals-o-mine, try these sites www.sorryeverybody.comwww.sorryworld4bush.comIt might open your eyes.  |
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Post by BOLO on Nov 28, 2004 14:11:22 GMT -5
He's back to being stupid again. Yo. Vinny seen this before?  |
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Post by UncleVinny on Nov 28, 2004 19:38:54 GMT -5
Oooh, you are so cute when you're mad! I find the sites heartwarming and encouraging. It's a message to the world that not all Americans are war-mongers itching to fight. What a wonderful response to see peace loving fellowship in the world, and show our solidarity with people from all walks of life. Now THAT is American values at work! |
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Post by BOLO on Nov 29, 2004 19:54:46 GMT -5
Yeh. Keep thinking that. Makes you feel bettter.
A Fantasy is a fantasy. Forever
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Post by Patriot on Nov 30, 2004 1:01:30 GMT -5
Vinny, It might interest you to know that under Islamic rule, your civil liberties would be ten times more restricted than what they are now by the Patriot Act. Moreover, the civil liberties of your mother/sister/wife would be cajoled twenty times to what they are now. You would respond by saying, "who are we to tell others how to live"? I say, AMEN! Who are the Taliban to tell their people what to wear or how to behave? Who was Saddam to curtail free speech on the part of his people at penalty of death? Why do we need the approval of the world to intervene on behalf of the weak? So what if it wasn't a popular decision. The stakes are global safety and human rights in the long term. If we have to strut alone to get the job done, so be it. And no one can stop us. Not even you, or your "sorry world", Demoncrap websites. That's the great thing about Republican America. We're so strong we can just ignore the pidly crap dropped by birds (or penguins) like you. Regarding your websites, allow me to present a little clarification: In 1776, we explained to you folks (the world) that we don't give a damn what you think. Apparently, a few stoners have given you the impression that we've changed our minds. Sorry about that.  |
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Post by moonotmo on Nov 30, 2004 6:43:59 GMT -5
As to Global warming. Believe in the tooth fairy too? Of course you do. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Are you implying that global warming doesn't exist?! You would respond by saying, "who are we to tell others how to live"? I say, AMEN! Who are the Taliban to tell their people what to wear or how to behave? Who was Saddam to curtail free speech on the part of his people at penalty of death? Who is Bush to try and ban gay marriage in the constitution? You can't have it both ways. (Fair enough, this case isn't as extreme as killing people if they speak out against him, but the principle still stands.) And no one can stop us. Not even you, or your "sorry world", Demoncrap websites. That's the great scary thing about Republican America. We're so strong we can just ignore the pidly crap dropped by birds (or penguins) like you. Fixed it for ya. In 1776, we explained to you folks (the world) that we don't give a damn what you think. Apparently, a few stoners have given you the impression that we've changed our minds. Sorry about that. Ah wells. At least it's nice to see that some of America has grown up. |
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Post by Patriot on Nov 30, 2004 6:54:08 GMT -5
Moon Mo,
You've made a few comments. None of them ring of sound logic. So until they are amended otherwise, they will simply be ignored. ;D On second thought, here's a little clarification:
"Fair enough, this case isn't as extreme as killing people if they speak out against him, but the principle still stands ."
If it isn't as extreme, then no, the principle does not still stand. That's like mixing trig theorems with calc theorems. No mixing apples with oranges. Get your cases "even", and then we'll talk. But don't think we'll accept a sloppy comparison of unequalities. We wouldn't do that in math. Why in politics.
"Ah wells. At least it's nice to see that some of America has grown up".
If by "some of America" you mean the losers (literally) who voted for Kerry, then I'd say, they still have a lot of growing up to do-- enough to get to the point where they are mentally capable of picking a candidate who's able to win.
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Post by moonotmo on Nov 30, 2004 8:52:44 GMT -5
If it isn't as extreme, then no, the principle does not still stand. Of course it does. You showed how the Taliban told people how to live. You showed how Saddam told people how to live. Does that logic not apply to Bush when he also tries to tell people how to live? I don't know what logic you're following. If by "some of America" you mean the losers (literally) who voted for Kerry, then I'd say, they still have a lot of growing up to do-- enough to get to the point where they are mentally capable of picking a candidate who's able to win. By "some of America," I meant the people who are not pathetic enough to say how their opinions of the rest of the world have not evolved since 1776. It's been a few hundred years now; get over it. And if you honestly believe that Bush was the only candidate "capable of winning" an election, your country is in an extremely sad state of affairs. |
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Post by Patriot on Nov 30, 2004 10:12:24 GMT -5
Moonotmo,
Name the constitutional provision that would require those who break a theoretical ban on gay marriage to be thrown into a bathtub filled with acid, as was Saddam's policy with the Abu Ghraib prison. No such provision exists, nor was it recommended. Therefore there are two different plains of principle here. Get over your liberal penchant for hyperbole and exaggeration and start seeing things for what they are.
Anyone who gives an iota of concern over the welfare of others in the long term would be the first to remain supportive of our successful overthrow of an autocratic, dictatorial, and abusive regime.
As for your recent political loss, who can you blame but yourself and your party. Bush isn't the only candidate who was capable of winning: which is why you and your Donkey (JACKASS) party should have been smart enough to choose someone more qualified to gain the support of more of America. But donkeys have never been known for their intelligence. The very fact that Democrats chose that animal as their representative speaks volumes as to their mental capacities.
Yes, much has evolved since 1776-- among other things, our national sovereignty and ever growing grip on the world. Those of us who've worked for it do not intend to throw such power away.
Now go suck on a rainbow lolly-pop you pathetic little homo. And a dick, if you're so inclined. Meanwhile, those of us who care about American morality will continue our discussion.
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Post by UncleVinny on Nov 30, 2004 11:15:05 GMT -5
Now, now, fellows and girls!! As the great philosopher, Rodney King, once said, "Can't we all just get along?" Ha, ha!  Here's a clue: The peace we all desire between the US and other nations is the SAME peace that we can find amonst oursleves here on this forum. How can we expect to have world peace and then still be fighting amonst ourselves? It really amazes me that people think by venting their rage that somehow this will lead to the peace of mind we all seek.  |
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Post by Patriot on Nov 30, 2004 11:20:15 GMT -5
"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the boisterous sea of liberty." Thomas Jefferson.
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Post by BOLO on Nov 30, 2004 12:23:18 GMT -5
Nahhh..... I'm telling him and you it doesn't exist.
So now trot out all the tired old facts and figures most of which were misconstrued or deliberately distorted and show me that it does.
Keep in mind that for every website you present there at two in oppostiton.
Many things occuring everywhere is the result of nature doing it's natural thing. Cycling.
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Post by BOLO on Nov 30, 2004 12:37:28 GMT -5
The height of arrogant stupidity. Like all Liberals you see peace as everyone agreeing with you. You firmly believe that is a natural State of affairs. Thus anyone not agreeing with you and your beliefs would be stupid or ignorant. You never will understand just how dense and stupid (in the true sense of the word) Liberals are.
This is a Conservative Forum. If everyone was at peace everyone would agree and there would be no need for the Forum, and you would be a conservative, something, despite your claims, you have never been. Same applies to political Parties and Ideologies. No dissent means peace, means everyone is in lock step and everyone agrees. Ain't gonna happen.
Shades of George Orwell, want to burn books also? Bradbury would love you.
I do not desire peace to the point I will sacrifice my believes or freedoms. So here it is vinny. WAR!!!
Got it? Jerk.
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Post by BOLO on Nov 30, 2004 12:51:15 GMT -5
Your logic has a big hole in it.
The proposal you talk of has been out there for years. It is not even President Bushs'. He has jumped on the band wagon because the proposal is popular. That means a great many people want it.
You try to narrow it down to President Bush. Wrong!
It is not him trying to tell you or anyone else what to do.
It is the people of the United Sates attempting to do that. They have that right. The Constitution gives it to them, it has been amended 28 times if memory serves.
It can be again if it is Majority will. The majority has always had the right to tell you and anyone else how to live. It's called Laws.
Majority rule with respect for minority rights. part of the underlying philosophy for the Constitution.
Rights are GOD Given and Constitution guaranteed.
They are not absolute nor all encompassing and can never be.
You're right to light matches stops at my property.
You're right to throw a punch stops at my nose.
E.T.C. E. T. C.
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Post by Patriot on Nov 30, 2004 13:53:12 GMT -5
Amen, Bolo! I've got your flank. Liberals beware: you are about to be swept in a left oblique. |
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