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[TNRighty]

Who Would Osama Vote For?

Obviously Osama won't be voting in the upcoming election, but he certainly has a vested interest. I was just wondering who ya'll think he'll be rooting for and why. I'd like to hear your opinions.

[BOLO]

Ah....KerryEdwards, then afterwards he would try to blow them up. Cause he could.

[Peanut]

I would say BushCheney - that way he could blow them up, if they win.

It will be one scary time if they do win...

[BOLO]

I would say BushCheney - that way he could blow them up, if they win.

You know what. Nobody said "could" in the sense you mean it. I don't at all like what you imply. Clarify it.

[Peanut]

Want me to shine yo' shoes as well massa?!

Since the question was posted up hypothetically, I answered it with farce. It only makes sense that Osama would vote for his enemies, he is a mad man, therefore getting them in power,so he can destroy them, only makes logical sense.

Now if you are asking if I want to see BushCheney killed, of course I don't. I just don't like the idea that they MAY be in power again; they screwed up your beautiful country enough as it is.

[BOLO]

Want me to shine yo' shoes as well massa?!

No.
Your post indicated no humor, and it was phrased badly. It had a different meaning from farce.

Now if you are asking if I want to see BushCheney killed, of course I don't

Precisely what I was asking.
As to the rest. That's you opinion. Since you obviously don't live here may I ask what messed up place you live in? Whoever your political leaders may be I am sure they have ruined you beautifull country also. Dam political leaders. They get elected, and then they ruin everything. I take it ours don't please you. That's another thing they have to work on , pleasing non citizens like yourself.
Of course KerryEdwards would please you, and displease us. They would suddenly make this country beautifull again, to you, to us it would be ugly. Well there it is, Politics, and the human condition.

[scummybear]

It only makes sense that Osama would vote for his enemies, he is a mad man, therefore getting them in power,so he can destroy them, only makes logical sense.

Logical sense? He's mad, not stupid. Why would he not want those who would appease, and back down, in office? Would it not be easier to destroy the folks who aren't going to be very aggresive toward him / terrorism? It would be "logical" to take the path of least resistance.

I just don't like the idea that they MAY be in power again; they screwed up your beautiful country enough as it is

I am amazed at how you can suppose that you know more about the state of affairs here than we do.
Since when do you care about our country? Anyone fly jet-bombs into your buildings lately?
And don't even try to make the case for it being a different matter than Iraq, because it's all the same.

[Peanut]

First BOLO,

Since you obviously don't live here may I ask what messed up place you live in? Whoever your political leaders may be I am sure they have ruined you beautifull country also.

I'm Canadian eh? And we just had our federal election, Liberal party won without the majority government. Yep they've screwed up, but the Conservative leader wanted to put troops in Iraq - can you imagine?! He also wanted to privatize health care - nut job, I tells ya.

They get elected, and then they ruin everything. I take it ours don't please you. That's another thing they have to work on , pleasing non citizens like yourself.

When you have a man, that hasn't mastered the english language yet and lived in America all his life, that will worry others.

Of course KerryEdwards would please you, and displease us.

US being the Republicans and boo hoo, the republicans arent going to be happy - when are you people ever happy??

They would suddenly make this country beautifull again, to you, to us it would be ugly.

No it wouldn't, but the lesser of two evils would be ruling, which is how it is when you have a two party system.

Scummybear,

I am amazed at how you can suppose that you know more about the state of affairs here than we do.

I'm amazed you think you know the ENTIRE state of affairs of your country, no one does. Unless of course, you travel to every city of every state and stay there long enough to witness it first hand? Which I doubt you do. I'm not trying to be a smartass, I'm just saying I clearly can't now the state of affairs of your country, but neither can you. You know the affairs of one city in your state - that's about it.

Since when do you care about our country? Anyone fly jet-bombs into your buildings lately?

- Exactly. Your country witnessed and experienced a terrorist attack, one of the most vicious, in the western world. Who was running the country, at the time of this attack?? What happened in Spain, just before a federal election, where it was thought that the Conservative Party was going to win?? I dont want to sound like a smartass or snide - but I sure am happy as hell, that the Conservative Party of Canada did not win the election we just had, I would really hate to think what may have been, if they did.

[scummybear]

You know the affairs of one city in your state - that's about it

Duh, yup, thats all I know, one city, one state. Who in the hell do you think you are? I never said I knew EVERYTHING! I don't even pretend to know everything about all doings, everywhere, but don't try to insult me where I live. What a pompous, arrogant statement. I would sure as hell have more direct information on a broader scope than you by virtue of my residence; vice-versa for you and your country.

- Exactly. Your country witnessed and experienced a terrorist attack, one of the most vicious, in the western world. Who was running the country, at the time of this attack?? What happened in Spain, just before a federal election, where it was thought that the Conservative Party was going to win?? I dont want to sound like a smartass or snide - but I sure am happy as hell, that the Conservative Party of Canada did not win the election we just had, I would really hate to think what may have been, if they did

Are you so daft as to think that nothing was happening in the way of terrorism prior to the Bush administration? There were numerous attacks here prior to Bush taking office, and terrorism was not a priority during the eight years that Clinton was in office.

These scumbags have been trying to kill us, and it doesn't make any difference to them who the residing party may be. Only it is much harder for them, if there is someone in office willing to fight them- now- today- where they live, and not go crawling to the U.N. to ask what we should do next, which btw, is what will happen if Kerry/Edwards win.

Since you like to suppose the way things are in a place that you don't live, I might suppose that it is freedom, and independence that is so hated and thus the target; so maybe there is not that much there that holds the interests of tyrrants (save the ones you already have). So, if you want to talk about beautiful places that are screwed up. . .

[Peanut]

I would sure as hell have more direct information on a broader scope than you by virtue of my residence; vice-versa for you and your country.

Irregardless, any information you research, will be biased, based on the political/religious views you hold dear. My point was, that to accuse me of not knowing the affairs of the state when I live in another country makes no sense, because YOU wont and cant know the entire affairs of YOUR state (state, here, meaning country).

Are you so daft as to think that nothing was happening in the way of terrorism prior to the Bush administration?

NOTHING WAS! Otherwise, 9/11 would not have happened. When the Bush administration ignores a report titled "Osama Bin Laden to attack the United States of America", when you have your top counterterrorist advisor say "I failed you, and I failed our country" (dont know the exact quote) SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THE ADMINISTRATION! PERIOD!

These scumbags have been trying to kill us, and it doesn't make any difference to them who the residing party may be.

- I guess we must agree to disagree then.

Only it is much harder for them, if there is someone in office willing to fight them- now- today- where they live, and not go crawling to the U.N. to ask what we should do next, which btw, is what will happen if Kerry/Edwards win

- And you call me arrognant, maybe you should learn WHY these psychoatics are attacking you, before you get all defensive.

I might suppose that it is freedom, and independence that is so hated and thus the target

- You are not as free and independent as you think.

[scummybear]

NOTHING WAS! Otherwise, 9/11 would not have happened. When the Bush administration ignores a report titled "Osama Bin Laden to attack the United States of America", when you have your top counterterrorist advisor say "I failed you, and I failed our country" (dont know the exact quote) SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THE ADMINISTRATION! PERIOD!

Now you've convinced me that you receive a steady diet of horse manure from the "main stream" press. When Bill Clinton is presented with OSAMA BIN LADEN and passes him off to safe haven, KNOWING who and what he is, how can you blame it on Bush?
Also, Richard Clarke is a LIAR, who has contradicted himself over and over again. He has little credibility in light of these contradictions. Try a different media outlet besides Peter Jennings.
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- And you call me arrognant, maybe you should learn WHY these psychoatics are attacking you, before you get all defensive.

Umm, let me see; is it because WE'RE AMERICANS? Will studying the minds of lunatics and psychopaths make them stop blowing people up? Surely you're not that gullable.

Do you think the people of Iraq tried to figure out what was wrong with Saddam Hussein. Was it because he wasn't loved as a child? Or more recently, Did he just kill people because he could ?

WHY? Thats become a kind of a moot point now, don't you think?


I am free and independent in more ways than you'll ever know my Canadian friend.

Have a great life!

[Peanut]

Now you've convinced me that you receive a steady diet of horse manure from the "main stream" press.

NO, but when you see Condalezza Rice state, "I believe the report was titled - "Osama Bin Laden plans to attack the United States" - I dont need to worry if my information is bias - IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.

When Bill Clinton is presented with OSAMA BIN LADEN and passes him off to safe haven, KNOWING who and what he is, how can you blame it on Bush?

I blame both for not taking the stance and stopping Osama Bin Laden. Bill Clinton for just passing it along to the next prez and Bushie for warping it into the "War on Terror".

Also, Richard Clarke is a LIAR, who has contradicted himself over and over again. He has little credibility in light of these contradictions

- Because you know more then the top counter-terrorist advisor to the President of the United States of America - please

Umm, let me see; is it because WE'RE AMERICANS? Will studying the minds of lunatics and psychopaths make them stop blowing people up? Surely you're not that gullable.

- Get off your high horse, and stop avoiding my question. It will understand why people are willing to blow themselves thinking, they are stopping your country. Once the reasoning is understood and an actual offering of peace is put into motion, less death will occur.

Do you think the people of Iraq tried to figure out what was wrong with Saddam Hussein. Was it because he wasn't loved as a child? Or more recently, Did he just kill people because he could ?

Why is that relevant? If you think i'm some artsy fartsy liberal that wants to dive deep into the heart of a tyrannt to figure out why he did what he did, you are wrong. The Soveriegn nation of Iraq was attacked even though not ONE iraqi citizen was charged for the death of an american (prior to the inital bombing of the country). All for what? That wonderful link between Alquida and Saddam - well, where is that link??

I am free and independent in more ways than you'll ever know my Canadian friend.

HA! Fall in love with a member of the same sex and try to marry them, then tell ME about freedom, my American Commrade.

Btw, dont bother commenting on that last point, there is a thread about homosexuality, comment about it there. I was just illustrating a point, you are not as free as you believe to you are.

[TNRighty]

Osama's war is not against Bush and Cheney. Its against America and the freedoms we enjoy. He bombed the WTC and the USS Cole under Clinton's watch, and the most recent attacks on the WTC were in the works long before Bush took office. He is a sworn enemy of ALL Americans. If they cought Kerry in the deserts of Iraq, they'd cut his head off, too. Osama bin Laden will be an enemy of the USA as long as he's alive, no matter who the president is. Anybody who believes any different is just plain dumb. If you think electing Kerry/Edwards in itself will end terrorism, your dead wrong. That won't change bin Laden's perception of the USA. As long as we live in a free capitalitst society, he will continue his jihad. The end of radical Islamic terrorism will come in one of two forms, 1. We stand up to these thugs and kill every last one, or at least dessimate their ranks to the point they cannot continue, or 2. The USA rolls over and accepts worldwide Islamic rule.

[scummybear]

I blame both for not taking the stance and stopping Osama Bin Laden. Bill Clinton for just passing it along to the next prez and Bushie for warping it into the "War on Terror".

How was it warped? Which do you like, ignoring it, or doing something about it?? Make a choice.

- Because you know more then the top counter-terrorist advisor to the President of the United States of America - please

What is your problem? I never claimed to, but I don't live in a cave either. He was recorded on tape contradicting himself- I can hear ya know.

- Get off your high horse, and stop avoiding my question. It will understand why people are willing to blow themselves thinking, they are stopping your country. Once the reasoning is understood and an actual offering of peace is put into motion, less death will occur.

Offering of peace? to who? I just don't think you understand fully what kind of people (loose term) these are. Do you really believe that there are diplomatic solutions in dealing with people who were taught since childhood that killing Americans, or whoever else, is the fastest way to heaven (or their understanding of same)?

Why is that relevant? If you think i'm some artsy fartsy liberal that wants to dive deep into the heart of a tyrannt to figure out why he did what he did, you are wrong.

Well thats how it sounds. What exactly do you mean by "understanding"? Understanding motives? Religious, political, whatever it is that they want, the end is unattainable and the means is murder. You seem to believe that all we need is a big sit-down and pow-wow, and that will stop the violence. Can you negotiate or have any positive outcome from dealing with terrorists. Just answer that for me.

All for what? That wonderful link between Alquida and Saddam

I find it very interesting that Alquida can be found everywhere on the planet but Iraq.

HA! Fall in love with a member of the same sex and try to marry them, then tell ME about freedom, my American Commrade.

whatever.

[BOLO]

I'm Canadian eh? And we just had our federal election, Liberal party won without the majority government. Yep they've screwed up, but the Conservative leader wanted to put troops in Iraq - can you imagine?! He also wanted to privatize health care - nut job, I tells ya.

I had that feeling. C Eh A Eh N eh D eh ian. One of the most arrogant, and contemptuous, people around, only surpassed by the French who have tentacles there in Quebec. I know you people, as my wife in from Toronto.
I visit there often, and dealt with her family, and others.
There was no doubt in my mind that the Liberal elitist up there would win. Too few conservatives. Even though conservatism up there is different from Conservatism down here. My wife was a victim of your stupid health care system. She receives excellent care now.

When you have a man, that hasn't mastered the English language yet and lived in America all his life, that will worry others.

Which is what you have up there with the Majority of your elected officials. They have lived in Canada, and don't understand the English Language, and speak it very poorly. So do a great many of your fellow citizens.
I suspect since you are running your mouth about President Bush you are probably just a guilty. I am sure you will hold forth that you are perfect, but it won't wash.

US being the Republicans and boo hoo, the republicans arent going to be happy - when are you people ever happy

Which only re-enforces what I stated earlier about arrogance, and elitistism. I am not a Republican, and was not referring to them. It does display for all your ignorance about America, and Americans.

No it wouldn't, but the lesser of two evils would be ruling, which is how it is when you have a two party system.

Yes it would, and again, your arrogance, and elitism surfaces. You know better than any one else.
Not.

I'm amazed you think you know the ENTIRE state of affairs of your country, no one does. Unless of course, you travel to every city of every state and stay there long enough to witness it first hand? Which I doubt you do. I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I'm just saying I clearly can't now the state of affairs of your country, but neither can you. You know the affairs of one city in your state - that's about

Arrogant, and Elitist. The point was WE know more about our country than you do. You got caught so you ran off at a tangent, and tried to divert away from it.
Bull.

Your country witnessed and experienced a terrorist attack, one of the most vicious, in the western world. Who was running the country, at the time of this attack

All right Wise Ass. Prove what you infer. Prove it was President Bush's fault. Go ahead Ass hole Prove it. You people run your mouth. and have no idea what the hell you are talking about. You Elitist and Arrogant little ass.
You, and those like you are disgusting. You try to place blame everywhere but where it belongs. With Bin Laden. Why don't you stay up there in Canada land where you belong, among the rest of the Arrogant, and Elitist.