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Post by BOLO on Jul 31, 2004 18:52:29 GMT -5
A lot of countries in the coalition have lots of people, some have only few, in comparison to others. Some countries in the coalition have huge land masses, others have small ones. Some countries sent what they could. They never the less sent something or someone. We know who our friends are. Your attempt to belittle them stinks, as do you. Unlike oh say...France, Russia, Germany, the UN. (Oil for money) Stuff it! You are a lousy individual. You and the Canadian idiot should get along, your both hypocrites. You point out the faults of others never realizing you have four fingers pointing back at you. Corrupt? Maybe. Prove it. Then explain all the non coalition Countries and the Entities that are corrupt. As pointed out above. Nothing wrong with helping out people you are allied to for what ever reason, It shows you are allied. Did that escape you stupid? Why don't both of you slip in to something comfortable,..like a coma. Oh!! You already are. ;D
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Post by BOLO on Jul 31, 2004 19:11:04 GMT -5
The fact that you believe it to be does not make it so. Indeed if you consider it to be so, that means it was well conceived, and received. It isn't that you represent a minority view. It is more that you represent an entirely unimportant view. It shows allegiance to a Common Cause, you know one shared by many. Not you of course, or Canada. (see unimportant view). You mean like oh say....France, Russia, Germany, and the UN? That kind of Greed. Oil money greed? Lord, you are stupid. Capital S. Here is proof. Do you realize you have, in essence, contradicted yourself? states? States. The United States? Of America? Who knows with you. You may believe the states are the Northern States. Or Mexico. Or oh, what ever. Care to get off your dead brain, and go look at who has reconstruction contracts ,and at who is "letting" them? Nah probably not. That would interfere with your lies and asinine accusations. ;D You are one dumb fella. You betcha. Dinky Dau. ;D
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Post by Peanut on Aug 2, 2004 21:32:32 GMT -5
Well thank you all knowing God of everything.
Now for the belittling *sigh* I am getting tired of this.
Ill-conceived, what do i mean by this, the fact that the war, you so honorably support is being fought for reasons you dont know about. You think it's to stop terrorism, and to help oust a tyrant, that your country did business with, 20 years ago. Fine, believe that, I'll have my opinions about it, sweetheart, cuz i can.
But if you think these are the ONLY reasons your country fought Saddam, (AND NOT OSAMA!!!) then you are naive, and that's all that can be said.
Common Cause, Almighty Dollar, what's the difference really?
That's why Canada has peacekeepers in Afghanistan and will keep them there until 2008, to help rebuild that country, THE COUNTRY THAT HOUSED THE TERRORIST MASTERMIND BEHIND 9/11 mind you, but you're right of course all-knowing God of everything.
If your wife is Canadian, she should know the slang, idiot.
You just called me stupid for using slang common in Canada. But didnt address the heart of my point - WOW.
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Post by bibster on Aug 2, 2004 22:36:38 GMT -5
Peanut, I don't lie. I grew up in Canada and went to school there. Do you know that I went to University there and about 75% of my profs opened up their classes with this statement: I believe that America is responsible for most of the world's problems. If you follow this premise in my class you will do just fine..if not, I can't gurantee you a good grade. There was some variation of that statement.
Come on Peanut, you're too absorbed in your jealousy fo America and your anti-American beliefs to admit that you're ant-American. C'mon, you said that Canadians aren't anti American, they just don't want to be American. Well most American's couldn't give a rip about commida. Commidans are so absorbed with their hate for America, they think America wants to take you over. Why would America want Commida. I left that socialist country to get away from American haters like you.
I don't lie Peanut. I grew up as a socialist. When I got older, I realized that the Canadian elite were trying to brainwash me and force feed me ideas. at school when ever I wanted to excersize free thinking, I was put down. I was mocked for not spewing the hate that the University wanted me too.
Funny thing Peanut is that I taped some of my teachers lectures and have played them for my American friends. They're disgusted.
I've taped people on the street in TO, Montreal, Vancouver, Winnipeg, Ottawa, etc. The common theme is hatred for America. Americans who here this garbage are appalled that Canadians feel that way.
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Post by Peanut on Aug 3, 2004 0:18:22 GMT -5
Can't really respond to that, as you dont have a direct quote from your professors. I'm sure by 'America' your profs meant the Administration leading America at various times throughout history. Surely a professor can't blame WW1 or WW2 on the US? As for any war since that, let's put it this way, the last war that the United States 'officially' fought in, was World War 2. By 'officially' I mean it was decided to actually "go to war" (not familiar with the specifics of how the states decide to go to war, but i hope you understand what i mean). Even with titles like "The Korean War" or "The Gulf War" - legally, these were not wars. Kinda makes you go hmmmmmmmmm, no? AHHHHHHHHH! I DONT HATE AMERICANS! Please do not talk to me like we are friends, or just because you use to live and grew up in Canada, we'll be buddy buddy. I do not like America's administration, in the past and right now, it's not doing good, it's doing harm. Read 1984 by George Orwell. I have nothing against America or the citizens of America, and what it STOOD for, in the past, but I believe that has been corrupted with greed. Especially since Bush became President, he is a poster child, there to give a few nice words (when he's pronoucing them correctly) while his administration makes the real decisions. Whose fault is that now? A few university professors for being biased? or YOURS for not standing up for what you believed? If you think I'm going to give you pity, brother, sorry, no I wont. If you're professor started off a lecture with a "I hate america" attitude, I would be too. But all peoples are ignorant to what their governments do, Canadians AND Americans. Um, great? Sorry to burst your little bubble about how you perceive me, I care not for what others think. I care about what a corrupt administration will do, with its immense power. BTW, have you walked the streets of Washington DC, Florida, California, Texas, and New York and asked Americans what they think of Canada and Canadians?? If you have, I am curious to know what the Canadians reaction was and if you havent, do that and then get back to me.
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Post by bibster on Aug 3, 2004 0:24:01 GMT -5
Well when Clinton was Pres, Chretien and Canadian citizens still called America bullies. It doesn't matter who is President. Canadians will always hate America.
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Post by Peanut on Aug 3, 2004 11:13:33 GMT -5
That's ONE prespective, YOURS. You can't judge 31 million on the comments of the few people you knew.
Clinton was as big a goof as Dubya, stop thinking I am some liberal for liberals and that's that. I am not.
You now sound like a Canadian-hating American; but here's the clinker - I dont care if you are. Just have good reason too be, and you havent shown you do. A few profs didnt like america and you were offended by that. You didnt stand up for your beliefs at school, so go off on some tangent about how ALL of Canada must be like those FEW professors and strangers on the street - how very prejudicial of you.
Spare me your sob story.
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Post by bibster on Aug 3, 2004 12:49:33 GMT -5
You don't get it. It wssn't just a few profs, it was the whole culture of a country. It was there media, universities, government, etc. It's widespread and it became most evident when Chretien became PM. I believe it will get better now that Martin is our PM. Go to www.itstherightway.com.canada.html for ana rticle titled Canada our friend? You will see that I'm not the Canada hater you think I am. I'm not a Canada hater. I call it the way I see it. I'm angered b/c I love Canada and I'm sickened by what she's become.
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Post by TNRighty on Aug 3, 2004 16:37:22 GMT -5
This "war for money", "Bush is greedy" crap is ludicrous. If we're fighting this war for oil, as you say, why didn't we just go into Iraq, overthrow Saddam, colonize the country and assume control of the Iraqi oil fields? If oil was all Bush was after, why did we sacrifice American lives when we've got plenty of oil here in the U.S. that remains untapped? Why wouldn't we just invade Mexico and take their oil? If all we were after was oil, we couldv'e done so through much lesser paths of resistance.
Maybe you need to take your argument to France or the U.N. They were the ones making all the money off Saddam's oil riches. That's why they didn't want us to go after Saddam, he was paying them off with oil money. Iraq's oil resource is now in the hands it should be, the Iraqi people. By removing Saddam, we have allowed the Iraqi people to use their oil riches for causes other than building lavish palaces. They can now use their freedom and oil wealth to strengthen their nation, their schools, and their economy. It also creates for us an ally in the Middle East, something we have never had with the exception of Israel. If one of the side effects is cheaper oil prices, fine with me, but that's not why we went there.
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Post by bibster on Aug 3, 2004 16:50:32 GMT -5
I think all this war for oil stuff is a cop out by Libs who are to embarassed to admit they don't have the guts to make the right decisionss and to make the tough decisions necessary to fight terrorism and agressors. Who cares about France, Germany and the UN. They're a bunch of gutless creeps.
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Post by BOLO on Aug 3, 2004 18:51:43 GMT -5
Not necessary to say your welcome. It is a given. Your nescience shows.. Yeah. So? Is it your position that you should have all the words including the last? Do you practice neologism often, or always? I did ask you what you meant by that. I don't care. I do honorably support it. Many did not support mine. I know the feeling when buttholes do not support the Military or it's efforts. I know all the reasons. I am a reasoning person. You on the other hand with that little piece of arrogant perception, and assumption, show your ass to the forum at large. You make up reasons based on a nihilistic viewpoint which allows only for existentialist thought. You being the existentialist. I do not think it is to stop terrorism. Such, idiot, is not possible. It is part of the War on Terrorism. Anybody else do business with that country twenty years go? How about a year ago? Ah yes as already said, France, Germany, Russia, and Oh Yeah the UN as a whole. Money. Money. Money. I'll do that culero, cuz I can, and cuz I'm right. You on the other hand do it just cuz you can. I know all the reasons. You, and many other of your fellow Liberals have never been able to back up you innuendo with facts, just rumor and supposition. You are so stupid, make that STUPID that you do not realize we are still fighting Osama, and looking for him aggressively. This country, unlike yours, can do more than one thing at a time. If you believe anything other than that then you are very pellucid, insipid, and devoid of reasoning thought. There is a big illustration of your thought process. Common Cause. Something all involved have a common. A purpose. Sufficient ground, Good reason, Aim object. It goes on. You do not understand, too vapid. Almighty Dollar. That is money. Can you show where money is the motivator, and end all reason? Do your best to get them out, so the men can get the job done. We don't need them. ONE OF THE COUNTRIES THAT HOUSED OSAMAStupid. He has been in Uzbekistan, England, Saudi, Turkmenistan, and quite a few others. he is currently believed to be in Pakistan. Not well read are you? Probably not intelligent enough to read. Yes. She is, she does. She says peanut is not slang for idiot. It is just an indication of the size of your brain. States? Yep. I love giving you the needle. I don't call you stupid for using slang. I just call you stupid cuz you are. Which by the way is not why I did anything. That addressed your point, at that point. Right to the heart of it. Subtlety escapes you, easily. No way to grasp it. ;D What has happened again, is that you have been refuted, and confronted, and once more you have no point to refute with.. I am still looking forward to my trip to Ontario in Aug.
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Post by Peanut on Aug 4, 2004 9:39:31 GMT -5
Because that would be breaking your own laws and admitting you are wrong; no other country would support you and quite possibly full out war from the world, against America. That war is too costly for the United States of America, but the war on terror is nothing considering what's coming up in the long run. But now the US will have even more control of even MORE oil. The United States of America is not some tribal country, that can suddenly state, "We are going to War". Going to war with Mexico would be stupid, no back up support, in fact, an action like that, would get other countries to try and go to war with America. Again too costly. But tell everyone that Saddam has WMD'S and a possible link to Al-Quiada and you not hunting for oil anymore, you are fighting terrorism. Prove it. And please no links to sites that start of with - www.unitedwestand or www.conservatism - neutrality is the key. UMMMMM, Iraq and Afghanistan were your allies 20 years ago. Bibster You are dense. That is propaganda speaking, might as start telling people that before the US intervined, Saddam and any civilian loyal to him, were throwing babies in the air and catching them with pitchforks. I have no problems with going to war with afghanistan or keeping troops in that country; hell i'll start planting land mines in every cave! The point is, Afghanistan should have been the unfortunate victim to the barrage Bush ordered, not Iraq.
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Post by Peanut on Aug 4, 2004 9:54:58 GMT -5
And now for BOLO,
That doesnt matter, you needed to know because you are a moron.
LOL, of course! *slaps forehead* You're a funny little man.
Then why IS OSAMA NOT FOUND?!?!?!?! Answer me that one question, without acting like a child.
No I'm sorry, you are a child. I dont care what you've said about you being a veteran, you have no honor and cannot be an adult, and an adult that fought for his country. My grandfather was a fighter pilot for his country and died defending it; he found no glory in the work he did. He, LIKE SO MANY, in the states or canada or wherever, didnt have the greatest education, and was living under communist rule, he had to join the army or armed forces and realize the money involved and stayed enlisted.
He died defending his country, but like a TRUE veteran, was smart enough to realize that war is a horrible, GOD AWFUL act. No true veteran returns to war to show how much of a "man" he is. A true veteran does what must be done. Doesnt complain because going to war was his or her own choice; but knows the true horror that awaits.
Are you really this thick headed?? SERIOUSLY. Since America can do so much at once, why arent you attacking these countries as visciously as you attacked Iraq?? Come on, shower me with your intelligence.
Considering that you are mostly 14 years of age, I take it by 'wife', you mean left hand. How cute, "she" is canadian.
Again, I'll give you the last word, have fun. I grow tired of arguing with a child.
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Post by TNRighty on Aug 4, 2004 16:24:17 GMT -5
Peanut,
What I said was, "IF THE WAR WERE FOR OIL AND OIL ONLY, why didn't we just go into Iraq, overthrow Saddam, and assume control of the oil fields." Go read it again. In your reply you quoted from me everything EXCEPT what came before the first comma, as if I were suggesting that's what we should've done. I can handle you being a complete airhead, but next time you re-post one of my quotes, post the whole thing, and respond to the whole thing.
As for Mexico, I never suggested we go to take over their oil. Again, Re-read my post, the whole thing. I was making the point that IF, as you say, all we were after was oil, there would be easier ways to do it than going into Iraq.
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Post by TNRighty on Aug 4, 2004 16:55:45 GMT -5
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