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Post by rem5152 on Jan 22, 2003 20:25:45 GMT -5
Is Planned Parenthood Federally Funded? I saw an ad that is pro abortion that totally makes fun of the office of the President, and George W. in particular. Are my tax dollars being used for this? If you want to see the ad, this is the address: www.rallyforchoice.org |
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Post by Mo on Jan 22, 2003 21:58:49 GMT -5
Yes! If you write a check to planned Parenthood for a donation, you can take it off your income taxes as a charitable contribution. If you give a check to Right To Life, you CAN NOT take it off your taxes. Abortion is legal, so Right To Life is considered a lobbying group, not a charity.
They also make alot of money from killing un-born babies. In several states, they have been caught performing abortions on scared young girls who were TOLD they were pregnant, buy were not!
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Post by Peanut on Jan 22, 2003 23:02:50 GMT -5
Mo, i agree that the distinctions are wrong in the two "charities" but, rem, making fun of the prez is something that is normal, he deserves it! haha.
However, planned parenthood, i agree with to an extent, that some precauscions to having children should be taken to people who dont want children. But ABORTION is not one of these methods or precauscions.
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Post by Sentinel on Jul 8, 2003 16:17:56 GMT -5
Not only is money given to Planned Parenthood (or money spent on abortions!) tax deductable, but the federal government itself gives money directly to Planned Parenthood under Title X.
Federal facilities provide abortions. And, the government even threatens private hospitals that refuse to provide abortions.
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Post by Sandy on Jul 9, 2003 17:53:49 GMT -5
Planned Parenthood is an organization that hands out information on birth control. It also hands out information on adoption and abortion.
The federal government pays 100% of the abortion costs and try as we may, we will not remove this from the budget. We tried years ago when Congressman Hyde brought it to the vote of the House and they approved of having it taken off the budget. They simply put the cost under a different category.
Many of our House and Senate members have used the federally financed abortion clinics for years. They will never ban the financing of it.
Are you folks really as naive as you write? Did you not read the results of Roe v Wade? This is exactly what happens when the government gets involved. Not only is the procedure legal but totally paid for by the feds.
This should be a state issue but none of you seem to realize it! I have worked for Planned Parenthood in hopes of bring down the numbers of abortions. It is working. The numbers are decreasing every year.
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Post by garrett7855 on Jul 10, 2003 13:03:41 GMT -5
"I would never strike a woman---BUT, I know what turns Mr. Hand into Mr. Fist"---Sam Kinison---
Planned Parenthood's driving force, its founding principles call for abortion(abomination) as the single most prefered method of population control.
If the numbers of abominations are dropping, it's only due to the efforts of the anti-abomination lobbies, not due to anything Planned Unparenthood is doing.
Planned Parenthood is federally funded. Yet another example of government interference in the social structure of the country.
Whether we agree or disagree with the objectives of PP, and make no mistake, I firmly disagree, it is NOT the governments place to promote their agenda.
In Red China, it is the governments place to do the exact same thing--albeit more openly than in the US--is this the role we all envision for OUR government? I surely hope not. If it is, we should all just give up now, because the fight is already lost.
Social ills should be adressed by social systems, not government ones. If PP can't stand on its own, it should be allowed to fail--LET"S HEAR IT FOR THE DEMISE OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD!!! ;D
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Post by Sandy on Jul 11, 2003 11:10:25 GMT -5
Oh crapola! Another evangelist! I've had enough of this forum.
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Post by Sentinel on Jul 11, 2003 12:16:33 GMT -5
Oh crapola! Another evangelist! I've had enough of this forum. If you're an activist you would welcome this. Those who preach to the choir are not activists. Those who try to win support are activists. I'd much rather be the only evangelist (whatever that means) in the forum than to be in a forum of evangelists (aside from the fact taht I would get kicked out of the "evangelist" forum the moment I got biblical about Israel or sodomists). |
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Post by marta on Jul 14, 2003 14:19:33 GMT -5
Planned Parenthood is an organization that hands out information on birth control. It also hands out information on adoption and abortion.
The federal government pays 100% of the abortion costs and try as we may, we will not remove this from the budget.
Really? Then why'd I pay $700 for my abortion when I went there? The abortions provided by Planned Parenthood are not 100% funded by the feds. If the feds fund anything, its the abortions for low income women, and I'm not even convinced of that. Most women I've known who've had an abortion were upper middle class and paid for it themselves.
Don't you think there'd be some sort of cataclysmic outcry from Neal Horsley and his cronies if the feds were funding abortions to any significant extent?
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Post by Sentinel on Jul 14, 2003 19:30:04 GMT -5
Then why'd I pay $700 for my abortion when I went there? The abortions provided by Planned Parenthood are not 100% funded by the feds. I don't know why she thinks the feds pay 100% of the cost of abortion. BTW, have you ever gone wild negro hunting in Africa? It's a blast. But, you're not allowed to bring your trophies home (not that you would want an ugly negro on your wall any more than an ugly fetus). |
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Post by MO on Jul 15, 2003 2:00:29 GMT -5
I'm trying to figure out what garret said to give the impression that he is an "evangelist!" He made no mentions of God and quoted a fat foul-mouthed comedian. Perhaps some senility is setting in among some.
PP takes money from everywhere they can get it. They have even been caught collecting fees and performing abortions on young girls who are not even pregnant.
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Post by Marta on Jul 15, 2003 15:25:56 GMT -5
PP takes money from everywhere they can get it. They have even been caught collecting fees and performing abortions on young girls who are not even pregnant.
Where are you getting this "information?" Please give me a citation. Unless you do, and unless it checks out as legitimate, I'm just going to assume it came from some stupid anti-abortion site, which would not be the first place I would go to for unbiased information on abortion.
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Post by MO on Jul 15, 2003 21:05:15 GMT -5
It's funny that many of the same hard left liberals who want regulations on almost every business under the sun think that any MD should be allowed to perform an abortion on a fourteen year old without her parents permission in a clinic that doesn't have to meet the requirements of other medical care establishments. In the state that I live in, a dentist could perform an abortion on a minor in his car and it would be legal. The liberals believe in "evil" big business but refuse to believe that their abortion doctor heros could ever exploit people for money. Liberals are sad, stupid people.
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Post by marta on Jul 15, 2003 23:16:07 GMT -5
As a scientist, I am inclined not to mindlessly swallow just any piece of information that comes my way. That goes double for information associated with controversial topics, and triple for information passed on in a forum with the word "rant," in its title.
Just cough up the citation. Shouldn't be that hard - if it's true that is.
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Post by garrett7855 on Jul 27, 2003 9:55:38 GMT -5
Mo- thankyou for actually reading that--I was trying to find "evangelist" in there myself!
I was trying to point out the impossibility of legislating moral issues, not drawing religious inferences or overtones.
Yes, it's true, I am very definitly anti-abortion (please note, I didn't say "pro-life"-death does have a place in the human equation), but that wasn't the thrust of the statement. If people continue to insist that everythiong must have religion as the core of every argument they make, then they are doomed to continually have their arguments relegated to the realm of the "extremist".
Abortion IS an abomination. That is a simple fact. If a person insists on rationalising it in order to live with herself, there's not one thing under the sun I can personally do about it. I can't stop you from doing it, and if you are ignorant enough to do it, I don't think I would try to stop you. After all, you are, if nothing else,
at least narrowing the gene pool of a person who could support such an outrageous act.
Abortion is murder. Period. Exclamation point.
If you have an abortion, I don't have to live with youir concience (assuming you have one), YOU do.
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