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Post by remedios on Aug 23, 2003 14:00:41 GMT -5
garrett - I'm shedding tears.
The ad hominem attack: last resort of those without a logical/reasonable leg to stand on, i.e. when one can't fight fair, argument against argument, simply insult your opponent.
As if that accomplishes anything. If your views are so soundly HEALTHY and so obviously correct, why do you have to resort to insults?
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Post by USA50 on Aug 25, 2003 23:02:25 GMT -5
Pssst, Conserves,......here's a secret...
Most of the citizens of the US are in favor of abortion. The same Court level that crowned george even said it was ok (Row vs Wade. - personally, I would row; there's no guarantee the water's shallow enough to wade).
You guys have lost this battle forever. Nothing you say, nothing you do (short of the Patriot Act) will change that.
Given that, I will let you 'rant' on. Eat your hearts out; it'll do the rest of us good.
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Post by AgentOrange on Aug 28, 2003 22:30:06 GMT -5
A woman who rids her body of unwanted fetal tissue is entitled to do so in the confines of a hospital at the hands of a Doctor. ABORTION is legal and the right-wing, religious, fanatical zealots are NOT, repeat NOT, going to have the procedure outlawed. YOU LOSE !!!!!!!!!
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Post by MO on Aug 28, 2003 23:23:51 GMT -5
I believe you are right, AgentOrange! I believe that abortion will never be outlawed.
The liberals will be free to suck their babies into sinks while the "right-wing, religious, fanatical zealots" have children.
Just further evidence of Darwin's "survival of the fittest" theory.
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Post by remedios on Aug 29, 2003 18:06:40 GMT -5
Except, Mo, that you probably don't understand enough either about Darwin, evolution, or genetics for that comment to be anything but smug idiocy. You're welcome to it, I guess.
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Post by MO on Aug 29, 2003 21:38:59 GMT -5
;D No smug idiocy there!  edit to say: I must have struck a nerve! I guess you had never thought of that! It took a smug idiot like me to bring it up. I don't usually do this. Bad form you know. Oh yes! I remember! You don't know! Main Entry: 1ei·ther Pronunciation: 'E-[th]&r also 'I- Function: adjective Etymology: Middle English, from Old English [AE]ghwæther both, each, from A always + ge-, collective prefix + hwæther which of two, whether -- more at AYE, CO- Date: before 12th century 1 : being the one and the other of two : EACH <flowers blooming on either side of the walk> 2 : being the one or the other of two <take either road |
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Post by remedios on Sept 2, 2003 17:42:58 GMT -5
edit to say: I must have struck a nerve! I guess you had never thought of that! It took a smug idiot like me to bring it up.
Nope, actually, I just like poking fun at you. It's so easy.
I don't usually do this. Bad form you know. Oh yes! I remember! You don't know!
Quote:First off, I believe that should be, "[y]our source has bias, [or conversely- is biased] too."
Main Entry: 1ei·ther
Pronunciation: 'E-[th]&r also 'I-
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English [AE]ghwæther both, each, from A always + ge-, collective prefix + hwæther which of two, whether -- more at AYE, CO-
Date: before 12th century
1 : being the one and the other of two : EACH <flowers blooming on either side of the walk>
2 : being the one or the other of two <take either road
Now I may be dumb, but I don't know what the hell you're talking about here. This quote was from eons ago. Why bring it up now? Please explain.
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Post by AGAINST on Oct 17, 2003 17:42:46 GMT -5
I AM AGAINST ABORTION. I THINK IT IS KILLING LIFE GOD  CREATED. IF HE DIDN'T WANT THE "BABY" TO BE HERE, THEN HE WOULDN'T OF CREATED THE "BABY". THE FETUS HAS A HEART BEAT, THAT MEANS TO ME, A HUMAN BEING. IF I HAD TO CHOOSE, I WOULD TAKE THE "BABY" AND LIVE WITH THE CHOICE I MADE. I WOULD RATHER HAVE 9 MONTHS OF PAIN AND THEN BIRTH THAN HAVING A LIFETIME OF REGRETE AND PAIN OF WHAT I DID. IF THE GIRL IS STUPID ENOUGH TO HAVE SEX WITHOUT PROTECTION, IT'S HER CHOICE TO MAKE THAT MISTAKE AND TO LIVE WITH IT. IF IT WAS A RAPE OR FORCED CASE, I CAN'T COMMIT ON THAT. THESE WOMEN, GIRLS, OR WHATEVER THE CASE, SHOULD TAKE UP ON THEIR MISTAKES AND LIVE WITH IT, TO NOT HAVE AN ABORTION. THIS IS HOW I FEEL SORRY FOR THE PEOPLE I "UPSET". I'M JUST A TEEN WRITING ON WHAT ANGERS ME. |
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Post by AGAINST on Oct 17, 2003 17:44:22 GMT -5
I AM AGAINST ABORTION. I THINK IT IS KILLING LIFE GOD CREATED. IF HE DIDN'T WANT THE "BABY" TO BE HERE, THEN HE WOULDN'T OF CREATED THE "BABY". THE FETUS HAS A HEART BEAT, THAT MEANS TO ME, A HUMAN BEING. IF I HAD TO CHOOSE, I WOULD TAKE THE "BABY" AND LIVE WITH THE CHOICE I MADE. I WOULD RATHER HAVE 9 MONTHS OF PAIN AND THEN BIRTH THAN HAVING A LIFETIME OF REGRETE AND PAIN OF WHAT I DID. IF THE GIRL IS STUPID ENOUGH TO HAVE SEX WITHOUT PROTECTION, IT'S HER CHOICE TO MAKE THAT MISTAKE AND TO LIVE WITH IT. IF IT WAS A RAPE OR FORCED CASE, I CAN'T COMMIT ON THAT. THESE WOMEN, GIRLS, OR WHATEVER THE CASE, SHOULD TAKE UP ON THEIR MISTAKES AND LIVE WITH IT, TO NOT HAVE AN ABORTION. THIS IS HOW I FEEL SORRY FOR THE PEOPLE I "UPSET". I'M JUST A TEEN WRITING ON WHAT ANGERS ME. |
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Post by MO on Oct 20, 2003 14:27:46 GMT -5
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Post by maggiesmom on Oct 21, 2003 14:21:26 GMT -5
hello. my question is: why doesn't anyone do anything positive to stop abortion? I'm 8 months pregnant and i do not wish to see a dead baby on a giant sign every time i drive past a clinic. how come there are no national organizations that give shelter to pregnant women and free education? America does notneed this back and forth argumenting, what it needs is to offer these women sanctuary. If the child was produced from rape, have connections with adoption agencies. Most of the abortion cases that i know of are pregnant teens whose families shun them or are too uninformed to know what abortion really is:MURDER. So much more can be done for these women when the money is invested into programs for them rather than show disgusting signs of torn apart infants, which by theway don't do anything to prevent abortions, just make the woman feel worse than she probably already does.
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Post by MO on Oct 22, 2003 1:23:37 GMT -5
I am offended by abortion whether I am witness to the horrid pictures of them or not. That's what it looks like and if you are offended by the graphic images, they are working.
First of all, I shall assume you are talking about poor, single women in a crisis pregnancy, right? Women who finish school and get married and have homes don't generally find themselves on the street with no home or education when they become pregnant. If you are seeing a graphic sign outside of a clinic, it's a safe bet that they are providing many of the services you claim are not available. I live in a rural county, but we have a crisis pregnancy center. It does provide testing and referrals to adoption agencies, shelters and other resources.
You specifically mention national organizations. There are several, the largest being National Right To Life. They exist primarily for public awareness and to lobby congress. Why would you assume that a national organization could serve individual women in crisis pregnancy better than the neighborhood centers that are all over the country? Do you mean government programs? We have several that encourage women to stay single and start squirting out babies as soon as possible. They are ADC, WIC, food stamp program, subsidized housing, etc. Government programs don't work.
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Post by Ender on Jan 28, 2004 16:35:09 GMT -5
I understand that this forum was last used a while ago but I post this for anyone who wishes to read it. Stop concentrating on whether the foetus is alive, human, or a baby. Whether it is an elephant, amoeba, or human. Put simply abotion kills the foetus or whatever you wish to call it. If you end somethings life than you must also understand that you are ridding it of its entire chance to live. Death is permenant. Imagine that foetus growing up to be a girl would you truely be prepared to kill that foetus, that baby, that child, that adolecent, that adult, that mother, that grandmother everyday of its normal living existence? Don't ask yourselves whether you can destroy life or not but rather if life wants to be destroyed. People tend to ask: What is the meaning of life? The meaning of life is to LIVE. We as humans put ourselves above all other life. We feel safer knowing that we are the best, we are a level above everything else. On a subconscious level we know that destroying life is wrong, but that it is necesary for our lives. We destroy life to survive, plants and animals become our food, clothing, and shelter. So I ask is abortion necesary for the continuation of our peaceful and content lives?
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Post by remedios on Feb 29, 2004 8:39:18 GMT -5
And the meaning of life is also to die. No other animal on the planet breeds indiscriminately. Heck, even rabbits will terminate a pregnancy if resources are scarce, and they are notorious baby-making machines.
Give women a perfect, affordable birth control method that satisfies the stupid religious right as being satisfactory and there'll never be another abortion again. Until then, women choose abortion for the continuation of their peaceful and content lives.
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Post by MO on Mar 1, 2004 1:43:06 GMT -5
"Death solves all problems - no man, no problem." -Josef Stalin
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CREATED. IF HE DIDN'T WANT THE "BABY" TO BE HERE, THEN HE WOULDN'T OF CREATED THE "BABY". THE FETUS HAS A HEART BEAT, THAT MEANS TO ME, A HUMAN BEING. IF I HAD TO CHOOSE, I WOULD TAKE THE "BABY" AND LIVE WITH THE CHOICE I MADE. I WOULD RATHER HAVE 9 MONTHS OF PAIN AND THEN BIRTH THAN HAVING A LIFETIME OF REGRETE AND PAIN OF WHAT I DID. IF THE GIRL IS STUPID ENOUGH TO HAVE SEX WITHOUT PROTECTION, IT'S HER CHOICE TO MAKE THAT MISTAKE AND TO LIVE WITH IT. IF IT WAS A RAPE OR FORCED CASE, I CAN'T COMMIT ON THAT. THESE WOMEN, GIRLS, OR WHATEVER THE CASE, SHOULD TAKE UP ON THEIR MISTAKES AND LIVE WITH IT, TO NOT HAVE AN ABORTION. THIS IS HOW I FEEL SORRY FOR THE PEOPLE I "UPSET". I'M JUST A TEEN WRITING ON WHAT ANGERS ME.