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[rush22]

MO, define 'insourced' job.

[BOLO]

MO, define 'insourced' job

Well there you go. A good response to my post. Well done.
Mo. All thing considered I understand what you mean even if the word is improper. The underlying theme is there, and can be understood by all but the most elemental of us.
Hmmmmmm......? Rush 22. Yep that's who!

[TNRighty]

I don't have a definition for "insourcing", but just think for a minute about how many jobs Japan has sent to the United States. More Toyotas, Hondas, and Nissans are manfactured in the U.S. than any other country combined. That's outsourcing, and we're benefitting from it. Outsourcing is not the problem here. In a global economy, jobs are going to flow across borders. Clinton's NAFTA policies sent a ton of jobs to Mexico, but could you imagine the uproar if Bush had done that? One of the reasons American businesses are relocating is because of the rediculous taxes levied against American corporations. Under current corporate tax codes, companies in America pay taxes to the IRS on profits they make in America AND on profits they make overseas. American businesses are relocating to countries with more friendly tax structures. And most of the time relocation doesn't mean uprooting the entire infrastructure of a company and carrying hundreds of employees overseas or hiring foreign workers in another country. Usually, its something as simple as an address change. A company buys a small office in Timbukto, puts a foregn address on their business cards, and sends three or four clerk-types over there to keep records and re-route the paperwork through a foreign address. Voila, now the company doesn't have to pay taxes to the IRS on profits made in other countries. The result, lower-priced goods, greater production, and more jobs.

[BOLO]

tnrighty.
Like I said, I understood what she meant. So did you. Looked like a good enough definition to me. Good Point ;D

[rush22]

TNRighty, Toyotas manufactured in the US for Americans isn't outsourcing by Japan. Outsourcing would be if Americans were manufacturing Toyotas and sending them back to Japan, which they aren't.

BOLO, is that what you'd call "insourcing" in the US? When another country outsources to the US? Plus, that was a response to MO's post, not yours.

[BOLO]

TNRighty, Toyotas manufactured in the US for Americans isn't outsourcing by Japan. Outsourcing would be if Americans were manufacturing Toyotas and sending them back to Japan, which they aren't.

BOLO, is that what you'd call "insourcing" in the US? When another country outsources to the US? Plus, that was a response to MO's post, not yours.

I am not the least bit interested in whether or not you were responding to my or her post. What I said still stands, so far, alone.
Do you believe we are going by your definition of what is or is not outsourcing or "insourcing"? We are not.
I said I understood what she was trying to say. Apparently you either don't, or you wish for it to be believed you don't, so as to continue an abstract point that has no bearing on the real issue. Tangents. You are famous for them.
BTW, Are you absolutely, 100% sure we are not sending Toyotas to the Japanese

[TNRighty]

I'm not going to argue the definition of "insourcing", "outsourcing", or "is", for that matter. It makes no difference. To have this debate you must first have at least an elementary understanding of economics and more importantly, some common sense. In a capitalist economy, contracts are awarded to entities that can offer the highest quality for the lowest cost. The decision to trade cost for quality is up to the contractee, and even that has its own set of economic circumstances. Whether you're an architect bidding for the contract on the design of a new baseball stadium or a machinist selling your skills to a manufacturer, the same rules apply. When you have labor unions trying to bully employers into meeting outrageous demands for wages, health care benefits, etc., don't be surprised when those companies look elsewhere for services. Business owners are in the business of making money. When you price your services out of the market, the market will find other sources, foreign ones if necessary. Producers compete with each other to send their products to the market at the lowest cost to the consumer. Would you pay $10 for a widget made in America when you can get the exact same widget for $7.50 if it were made in Hong Kong. If you answer "yes" to that question, you're lying.

[BOLO]

TNRighty
J` A`ccord

[lordjulius7]

Stultus est perennis. Probatum est.

[rush22]

I am not the least bit interested in whether or not you were responding to my or her post.

I was clarifying that my question was directed to MO, and not to you, as your previous post which says "A good response to my post" seemed to indicate.

What I said still stands, so far, alone.
Do you believe we are going by your definition of what is or is not outsourcing or "insourcing"? We are not.
I said I understood what she was trying to say. Apparently you either don't, or you wish for it to be believed you don't, so as to continue an abstract point that has no bearing on the real issue. Tangents. You are famous for them.

Blah blah blah. Does insourcing mean when another country outsources to the US? You never answered that question. Talk about tangents.

BTW, Are you absolutely, 100% sure we are not sending Toyotas to the Japanese

Yep.

[lordjulius7]

Rush - read David Riccardo.

[rush22]

TNRighty, yep sounds right to me. What is your point? That the likelihood of insourced jobs in the US is extremey low? That's what I think too.

[rush22]

Link please.

[lordjulius7]

Go to a library, moron.

[BOLO]

I was clarifying that my question was directed to MO, and not to you, as your previous post which says "A good response to my post" seemed to indicate

My response still stands. I care not whether you were posting to her, or anyone else. The Forum is OPEN to all, and EVERYONE can read, and RESPOND to what is there. Got it?
I was referring to my post, previous to that which you wisely chose to ignore. (Although you probably didn't ignore it)

Blah blah blah. Does insourcing mean when another country outsources to the US? You never answered that question. Talk about tangents.

Well there you go. Intelligent discourse. Three year olds have better responses. I know. I can talk to my three year old Granddaughter; get a more intelligent, and higher level response than what you provide.
Blah Blah Blah. My, so grown up. NOT.
We all answered your question. You, just as Lord Julius points out. Don't get it? He is accurate as to why.
You are not among those "quae vide"
You are forever blind.

ME:. BTW, Are you absolutely, 100% sure we are not sending Toyotas to the Japanese ?

You: Yep.

The weak economy, in turn, is set to contribute to lower domestic production by reining in car demand. Industry executives have forecast overall car sales in Japan will stay flat or shrink slightly this year. Domestic production is also likely to suffer as more Japanese cars sold at home are built abroad. In what could spell the start of a trend, Toyota began manufacturing the Voltz sports wagon in the United States last year for sale in Japan

www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0UDO/is_9_16/ai_97349521

Stultis est Perennis. Either one of the meanings.