R.I.P

[BOLO]

lordjulius7
Exuent Omnes.

[lordjulius7]

Luculentus. Porro et sursum!

[BOLO]

lordjulius7
Nemine dissentiente.
Onward ever onward.
Well recieved.

[flowerofscotland]

I am going to make a bold statement and that Raegon was resposible, not entirely, but to a certain degree, for the events of september the 11.

Was it not Raegon who gave Bin Laden both his money and his weaponary?

[scummybear]

Bin Laden had an enormous wealth from his family owned construction business as well as his ties with the drug trade in Afghanistan. He did receive assistance during the Afghan-Soviet conflict, ostensibly to fight the Soviets. To place any blame on Reagan for Sept 11th is absurd.

[BOLO]

I am going to make a bold statement and that Raegon was resposible, not entirely, but to a certain degree, for the events of september the 11.

Who is Raegon? Are we doing a Norse mythology thing here? Raganor?
Certainly Reagen was responsible. Bin Laden, not having any will of his own, and being easily inflenced, (Reagen saw this) was influenced by the President. Of course Ronald knew that eventually Bin Laden being the easily malable person he was, would eventually come to America and kill a great many of Ronnies beloved Americans, and in the process destroy the WTC.
How silly of you to even ask.
It would be nice to be prescient like Chamberlain and know what the future will hold. That way no mistakes could occur. Not to worry though the Left using their keen hindsight will like dogs (simile) rip into the present, and past with venomous dislike and hatred.
Of course Bin Laden had no money of his own. So he had to depend on the goodness of others like the U.S. Now it is an amazing thing about those weapons. Seems that the large majority of those went to the Mujahadeen. Not to Bin Laden. Money. He got some. Not that much. He had more than what was given.
Never the less. Ole Bin was just a victim of those smarter than he. Poor thang. He never knew what he was gonna do next. Had to wait for instructions you know?
Just a little aside. Reagen was the President of the United State. He represented the people by popular (very popular) vote. It was the U.S. that went in to assist the Freedom Fighters of Afghanistan. Bin Laden was a minor issue. Of course with your keen hindsight you would not have done it and the Taliban would still be in control and all would be peacefull. Right?
A bold statement indeed
ignis fatuus

[scummybear]

flowerofscotland said:

I am going to make a bold statement and that Raegon was resposible, not entirely, but to a certain degree, for the events of september the 11.

Was it not Raegon who gave Bin Laden both his money and his weaponary?

More black helicopters from those who desparately wish this to be true.

[BOLO]

More black helicopters from those who desparately wish this to be true.

Yes. Squadron strength.

[lordjulius7]

flowerofscotland said:

I am going to make a bold statement and that Raegon was resposible, not entirely, but to a certain degree, for the events of september the 11.

Was it not Raegon who gave Bin Laden both his money and his weaponary?

No, it wasn't. His money came from his family who are wealthy Saudi contractors. As for his weaponry, I assume you don't know the difference between al-queda and the taliban.

[pukaman]

Yo BOLO
When was the last time you read the Constitution ?
here's the preamble.
I post this in response to Social Security, Social Medicine etc.

Please note the phrase : "promote the general Welfare"

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. TEXT

[BOLO]

Yo BOLO
When was the last time you read the Constitution

In it's entirety? A long time ago. Excerpts. Very very recently.
NOW!!

I post this in response to Social Security, Social Medicine etc.
Please note the phrase : "promote the general Welfare"

What the Hell you talking about?
General Welfare? You giving that a definition you like? Forget it. That was not what the founding fathers were talking about. Those things did not even exist then.
Smarmy. Really Smarmy. Try to apply current conditions to history.
The words WELFARE STATE do not appear anywhere in the Constitution. Now you want to challenge me on it? Try! I have read it before, and can do so again. It has undergone very little change, and it is NOT a living breathing document subject to interpretation based on needs, wants, and desires. It is under assault by activist Judges on the Federal Bench, and Politicians trying to protect their jobs and people named Kennedy who don't understand it. But it has changed little.
No where does it say. Take money from X, and give it to Y, simply because Y has no money, and is too Freaking Lazy to get out, and earn it.

Social Security, Social Medicine etc.

Social Security was a political hat trick engineered by FDR to get him back into office. It succeeded. There is no reference in the Constitution to Social Security, you trying to compare the words Welfare, with Security, which is abhorrent, and twisted. Social Medicine was and is a Liberal hat trick designed to appeal to the elderly. All it does is take money from me, and give it to them. You want to do that, go ahead, I don't care, but don't try saying I have to do it too. You can not show me any of those buzz words in the Constitution.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Although the preamble is not a source of power for any department of the Federal Government, 1 the Supreme Court has often referred to it as evidence of the origin, scope, and purpose of the Constitution. 2 ''Its true office,'' wrote Joseph Story in his COMMENTARIES, ''is to expound the nature and extent and application of the powers actually conferred by the Constitution, and not substantively to create them.

caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/preamble/
Look at the last three words.

[scummybear]

BOLO,
Good luck on getting a response. Not that you're anxiously awaiting one.

[BOLO]

Scummybear

Good luck on getting a response. Not that you're anxiously awaiting one

Yeah. It was that obvious was it?
Back to the pub. Have one on me. ;D

[scummybear]

How is it you don't want your tax money to go to care for an American Grandmother, but you're are proud to send your money to blow up babies and mothers in 3rd world countries, while fattening the stockholders of Halliburton

Were you in a coma when America was attacked? A lot of people were "blown up" here on our own soil. The fight has to be taken to them. Al Quiada was everywhere but Iraq, huh? In this paragraph, you have, although quite crudely, spewed out the whole liberal mantra.

Oh I see, this is an example of "Compassionate Conservatism"
For a group who rails against the "Elite", you sure seem willing to take it in the rear from Cheney and his elite cronies at Halliburton

You need to do some research about Cheney and Haliburton, since I think you're confused. Can you elaborate a bit more about what you mean by "take it in the rear"?

For all you guys cry about paying taxes, why can't you see that you are being ripped off royally by multi-national corps who don't give a rats ass for you or this country, or anything but the Holy Profit ??

Can you be a just a little more specific? How are we being ripped off? Who do you think creates the jobs here? The poor? If you really want to see the conditions that you seem so apalled by, let's just do away with captialism.

Back to the pub boys and sharpen your wits with another beer.

You sound like you might want to try beer rather than that crack pipe you've obviously been smoking.

[BOLO]

Dear Scummybear.
I believe we have made contact with an Idiot.
I see all kinds of Juvenile Dogma, any chance this is russh22 in poor disguise?
Flat unsupportable assertions, and much innuendo with no basis.

How is it you don't want your tax money to go to care for an American Grandmother,

I see childish statements like this, which are designed to irritate rather than inspire debate, and that tells me we have a child on board. It is also a clear indication of deep rooted ideology.
The term SPACE CADET comes to mind.

but you're are proud to send your money to blow up babies and mothers in 3rd world countries

Another childish, dogma ridden, statement. Iraq was not considered 3rd world. Bangladesh yes, Iraq no.

For all you guys cry about paying taxes

Were you doing that? Or were you like me protesting paying too much taxes?
This is definitely someone who is out there. I'm not sure I want to bother continuing with (it).
I read your response.
All I can say is Hear. Hear.
Well have a god day and take care.
Bolo.
P.S. Have an elitist beer on me. ;D