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Post by Foamy Dog on Jul 13, 2002 5:01:05 GMT -5
Here's a classic from Fred Reed (our Junkyard Dawg) to get this catagory going. By the way you can stop by and see Fred at www.fredoneverything.net. Enjoy! --FDFeminist Tarantulas (part 1)A Rural Male Reflects On Feminist Incivility, While Calculating Windage Maybe I'm just a country boy at heart, and lack sophistication, and don't see things the way I should. But when I watch one of those radical-feminist women heave onto a podium, like the forehaunches of an under-nourished giraffe but with more hair on her lip, and start hollering and carrying on about what slugs and bandits men are, I start thinking of the curative powers of a shotgun full of rock salt. I recommend a 12-gauge duck gun. It's the incivility of these feminist people that gets to me. Most of them seem to have the manners of a guard dog , but without the utility. (I know, I know, I'm going to get angry letters. From guard dogs.) For pure bile, you can't beat a radical feminist. The average specimen can turn out bad temper for hours on end, like lumber from a sawmill, and any of it sounds like all the rest. The following, which gives the flavor, is from Andrea Dworkin, who I gather is a sort of museum-piece siege howitzer for feminism. It's pretty much how they all talk. Listen: "Men use the night to erase us...The annihilation of a woman's personality, individuality, will, character, is prerequisite to male sexuality, and so the night is the sacred time of male sexual celebration, because it is dark and in the dark it is easier not to see: not to see who she is. Male sexuality, drunk on its intrinsic contempt for all life, but especially for women's lives, can run wild, hunt down random victims, use the dark for cover, find in the dark solace, sanctuary, cover." I do? How does a man respond to such a broadside? The prose could use some lubrication, of course, and maybe a new set of plug wires, but I'm talking about the content. My first impulse is to reassure the poor woman: "There, there, Andrea, you're safe, nights just don't get dark enough." My second impulse is to wonder just how much radical feminists know about male sexuality, and what book they read it in. continued . . .
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Post by Foamy Dog on Jul 13, 2002 5:03:45 GMT -5
. . . continued
I like to picture myself on a Saturday-night date in high school, parking on a back road.
My date: "You're driving kind of funny. I reckon it was the beer."
Me: "Why, no, Sally. I'm drunk on my intrinsic contempt for all life."
Sally: "You're so silly. Come here."
Me: "Soon...soon. Do you mind staying here by yourself for a bit?"
Sally: "Huh?"
Me: "I need to, uh, you know, run wild for a few minutes. Hunt down a few random victims. Use the dark for cover. Guy stuff."
Sally: "You nuts or something?"
Me: "It's...night, Sally...the sacred time of male sexual celebration."
Sally: "You're gonna do it out there?"
OK, I understand that the radical feminist ladies are a few french fries short of a Happy Meal. They can't help themselves. What I can't figure is why more-or-less grown-up editors publish all this clucking and scratching as if it made sense. And I also don't understand how the rules got fixed so that a Dworkin can say anything at all about men and get away with it--but men can't say anything back.
Any loon feminist can accuse men of being rapists, killers, sadists, and Marines. These are pretty serious charges. A fellow could take exception to them. But if I say something comparatively innocuous in return, such as that I weary of being harried by a rat-pack of diesel-fired tarantulas who mostly look like Rin Tin Tin's littermates--why, they get mad. (Yes, I know, that was a three-animal zoological-automotive metaphor. Patent applied for.)
I figure if radical-feminist ladies can talk ugly about us, then we can talk ugly about them. And we're probably better at it, which they might bear in mind.
What I say is, if you have pool-hall manners, you ought to expect to play by pool-hall rules. Any guy who doesn't work for the Washington Post knows this. Go into the wrong bar, and somebody will likely hit you over the head with a pool cue. Nothing wrong with that. But the assailant will grant you the right, while questioning your ability, to smack him on the head with your cue. Symmetry. Reciprocity. Conservation of parity.
Not those feminist people. They want to swing cues. They don't want to get swung at. I say let's treat'em equal.
It'll happen. Some day before long I'll be talking about something sensible, like a '57 Chevy with Carter AFBs and a three-quarter Isky and 17 coats of hand-rubbed Orchard Mist lacquer that looks like Chinese emerald carving if they'd done it right. Sure enough, some dog-biscuit feminist is going to sniff, "Ah, yes, boys and their toys. Boys will be boys. Intrinsic contempt for...."
And I'm going to say, "Mercy, lady, mercy. Yes, we males are a sorry lot, sinners all, and neck deep in iniquity. The shame of it bores into my soul. Now you go stand in the middle of Dupont Circle at high noon, with a pair of seven-by-fifty binoculars, and look real carefully all around, and point to one thing, with a moving part, that was invented by a radical feminist."
Then I'll go for my duck gun.
©Fred Reed. All rights reserved.
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Post by Chuck on Jul 15, 2002 16:14:36 GMT -5
Duuuuuuude! That freekin' rocked! Rave on oh enlightened one, and fearlessly! Chuck
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Post by some chick on Aug 5, 2002 15:10:41 GMT -5
This radical feminist is more than happy to match you at swinging cues, shooting pool, duck hunting(mmm, good eats), and anything else you sorry buncha circled jerks care to have a go at. Swing, pal. Make it count, don't waste my time.
Because I've gotta get back into the engine room on this converted trawler, 1500 horsepower diesel engine and keep this boat above the water line. Just because some clown with a Y chromosome supposedly invented it doesn't mean a penis is required to keep it running.
Get over yourselves, boys.
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Post by Foamy Dog on Aug 6, 2002 12:47:54 GMT -5
Wow Some Chick,
I think you just proved every word Fred said about radical femminists and took him up on his offer.
Fair enough. His home on the web is FredonEverything.net
By the way, I don't recall him (or any other male) ever saying that a penis is required to run anything.
In all fairness, be sure to read Fred's bio before you meet him in the pool hall.
Thanks for visiting, --Foamy Dog
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Post by FRED accordingtofredcom on Aug 24, 2002 11:40:03 GMT -5
For starters it's not feminism, it's really masculinism, because they want to be men. If they were feminine they would have qualities as such. Has anyone ever seen a feminist who was a hottie, no of course not. If you want to be men go get a sex change. We are what we are. The earth puked up man from the dust and he just does what he does. Don't take it personal that we can kick your ass, and grow hair on our chests.
We just have a rash of strange people in America, who are fighting so hard to be the opposite of what they are, stop fighting what you are and go with it. Do you think its some sort of conspiracy that men like sports, fighting, playboys, and farting, it’s in our genes and if it’s not in yours I'm sorry you will just have to accept it.
Equality is important but it has been achieved and now these bitter closet lezbos have run out of excuse for still being under achievers. The world is the world and you can either succeed in it or fail trying to change it to give yourself some sort of advantage. The world is really not broken by sex, sexuality or race or color it is really divided into winners and losers and you never see winners marching in protests or crying about how unfair the world is.
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Post by Mo on Sept 25, 2002 20:38:45 GMT -5
....be careful boys...sites like this should entertain but also try to bridge the gender gap and dismiss sterotypes of conservatives. Feminists are fair game... but mind your sweeping generalizations. Conservatives can't afford that. Yes it is true that men are responsible for most of the significant advancements in almost every aspect of life. But they all had mothers who trained them up. Most have had someone home caring for their home, their kids, their meals and other needs thus freeing them to pursue their noble aspirations. "Behind every great man is a great woman." Any man who does not value this as true and noteworthy should not wonder why some women would rather darn buisness suits or combat boots than hubby's socks. Women want their lives to have value in society, too. Junk Yard Dawg's attitudes on marriage are new-age and far from conservative. He needs to get married. Marriage is a fine institution, and he is ready for an institution! It is true that women are more likely to file for divorce, but men are more likely to beat on them, cheat on them, or die on them. A woman who chooses traditional wife and motherhood is taking a much bigger risk now, than in previous generations. Thanks to feminists and no -fault divorce, he can walk off in the arms of another woman with half of the assets and all or most of the earnning potential. If they are only middle class, the earnning potential is likely to be more in one year than her half of the assets. If she is raising the 3 or 4 children, why should'nt she get 3/4 or4/5 of the assets, plus alimony? For the happily married woman who's huband up and dies, the picture is just as bleak. Today's world is not full of neighbors who will help a widow with the kids or send their husband over with the lawn mower. She is just a washed-up has-been without a career or a husband. A social pariah! It is custom to say "congratulations" to the groom and say "best wishes and good luck" to the bride for good reason. If I pass the bar and write the great novel, I will still consider my role as "mom" to be my most couragous undertaking and my most noble accomplishment. Society does not support my values. If anything, "mom" status has gone down. The best way to put down feminism is by elevating the traditional roles of wife and mother. Otherwise, you don't hate feminism, you hate women.
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Post by barral69 on Sept 26, 2002 11:03:26 GMT -5
Foamy Dog..... I guess if you call me stupid for this, I deserve it but, what does the word iniquity mean? I'm sure I've heard it before, but can't think of what it means.
Mo.... If I knew the lady next door raising 5 kids was a widow, devorced, you name it, and it looked to me like she needed someone to mow her lawn, I'd do it. But I guess I'm not the "TYPICAL" man. I'm what I like to call a true man. Do I call myself a true man because I'm 300lbs and can bench press a bus? No. Matter of fact I weigh 160, and I most likely can't bench a very large dog. The reason I think I am a real man is simple. I am a guy, I am polite and kind, I respect my mother and ALL women,(even those that piss me off) and I, like many men if you'd give them a chance, have manners. One thing I do hate though is the phrases, "All men are Dogs!" or "Men are pigs!" If you say/think that.....SCREW YOU TOO! Not that YOU did say that, just bringing up a point....This is private information but I feel it will help to describe me a little further. I am a 21yr old virgin. In high school the big thing was, just find a chick that will open her legs and your in. That wasn't my thought. I just wanted to get through school. (never made it. But I got my GED! ;D ) Yes, like ANY man when I see a beautiful woman I think, "Wow. She is hot!" But my thoughts also wander to thinking.."Is she smart? Is she funny? Is she open minded?" I don't just think sex. And the assumption that all men are dogs or pigs is the assumption that we are no more than walking hard-ons 24/7 and I RESENT THAT! No man could walk right with a hard-on for 24/7. We'd pass out. And as well, do those women who think we are just that, just wanting it to be true so she can satisfy her own desires?
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Post by Mo on Sept 26, 2002 21:48:47 GMT -5
WOW....ahhh 'aint the beer cold...ahh........How 'bout thoose NYJets...
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Post by barral69 on Sept 26, 2002 23:53:28 GMT -5
WOW....ahhh 'aint the beer cold...ahh........How 'bout thoose NYJets... Think you need to be a little more specific. If your trying to say I was drunk, I DON'T DRINK!
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Post by Mo on Sept 27, 2002 1:15:38 GMT -5
I was not saying you were drunk. Sorry if it came across that way. I was trying to make a subtle/ humorous reference to the raunchy subject matter. I do want adult conversation but I don't want to talk about "hard-ons" yours or anybody elses. If I did, there are plenty of other sites I could go to. That is just my humble opinion, you are free to talk about anything you want. That is just not a topic I want to go into. It is none of my buisness what you talk about, and I would not have posted that had I know I was going to have to spell it out! Blessings I'll drink one for you.
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Post by Foamy Dog on Sept 27, 2002 2:15:28 GMT -5
barral69 - iniquity: gross injustice or wickedness. Rule: their are no stupid questions here. Just to clarify to passers by, I didn't write the article The Junkyard Dawg (Fred Reed) is the author. I just posted it for discussion. Real feminism is fine by me. All human beings regardless of race gender politics etc. are just that, human beings and should be treated and viewed as such. The thing that bugs me is the feminists who are becoming what women for years have fought against: (female) chauvinists. --FD
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Post by Mo on Sept 27, 2002 13:53:07 GMT -5
I don't like female chauvinists, either and I really was not trying to defend feminists. I don't blame men for biting back. But men can't take full credit for every invention and every achievement known to man. When you do that, you are not just insulting feminists. The noble women throughout history who have lived obscure lives raising kids and keeping men with full bellies and clean socks and underwear deserve some of the credit, too. The fact that "woman's work" is seen as insignificant and not a real achievement is the reason there is "feminist tarantulas" among us!
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Post by Foamy Dog on Sept 27, 2002 19:31:26 GMT -5
Indeed. Women have in fact done some great things throughout history on top of "womans work." I also agree that "woman's work" doesn't get the respect it deserves. Even though more women have "careers" and have really gained respect in the workforce, I don't think much progress has been made in appreceating such tasks whoever does them male or female. Folks don't seem to realize that certain general tasks are at the backbone of everything. I'm straying a bit from the issue at hand in the following but bear with me it is still a good example . . . Something that really PISSES ME OFF is the way people look down upon others that perform these general tasks whether it is a woman who stays at home or whether it is a janitor, housekeeper, waitress or waiter. Where the HELL and in what handbasket would we be without them? --FD PS - Just had to get that off my chest. Some of the finest and smartest people I know have these jobs and I have been noticing lately how badly some that work with them in "higher" positions treat them. I guess I'm just gonna have to get Foamy on their asses!
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Post by Mo on Sept 27, 2002 22:28:57 GMT -5
Sic' em' Foamy- You are soo right! It takes alot more humility to serve others without the glory like a mom or a waitress. A Sen. V.P. in Corp. America may serve too, but his/her ego and wallet is fed well for it. Maybe the mean people don't really feel like they deserve it, so they have to put others down to feel worthy of their elevated status? A medical Dr. and an auto mechanic are inter-dependent, why does Doc get elevated status? Is it all just about money? One hand washes the other. We are all important in God's eyes, we should try to be important in each others.
Pr 11:2 When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom.
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