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Post by damnthecommies on Jun 13, 2003 13:56:22 GMT -5
I'm not very good with names....so please forgive me for my lack of memory.
We all know that recently A certain palestinian, while laying sick in the hospital, made the promise in english, that his goal was to kill every jew.
Does this sound familiar?
In the 40's when Hitler led in his rule of terror in Europe, he had basically the same goal. Kill every jew. We did not tolerate this but we didn't do much about it either. In turn, his hatred killed aprox. 6 million Jews in one fell swoop.
Who says Palestine won't do the same? The US is discussing now, a certain "peace with victory". I don't see how it is possible to be a peaceful nation (Palestine) when the ulterior motive is the obliverate the jews. That doesn't make sense to me.
I think we should take a deep breath and eat some fruit before we say things that don't add up.
History always repeats itself doesn't it?
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Post by flossingofamerica on Jun 13, 2003 16:47:31 GMT -5
Your argument would be great, if we assumed that every palestinian felt the same way. They don't. There are Jews that want every palestinian dead...does that mean we will lump all jews together as killers as well?
Ariel Sharon (now, he's the prime minister of israel) has been quoted many times with regard to his wishes of erradicating the palestinians. Is he representative of all of his people? He may be in charge, but that doesn't mean they all agree.
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Post by JesterCerberus on Jun 16, 2003 19:47:08 GMT -5
The world is very screwed up. Many different people continue ideologies that destroy the possibility of living a world where we don't have to worry about terroirst, war or compettiton. It is very easy to see the problem with other's way of thinking because we are not controlled by their ideologies. Likewise it is very easy fot them to look at European countries who durring the age of imperialism commiting many attrocities, taking over African and Asian countries. They believed that their way of life was the best and so destroyed others cultures and used their land and resources to benifit the mother country. Same is true for the way America acted durring the Cold War. We belives that captalism was the best system and we fought hard to make sure Vietnam addapted it. We disrupted free elections which we said we wanted to happen, made up an attack on us, sent planes, sent marines to gurad the planes, told the amrines to go aroung the basses 50 miles, sent more marines, dropped more bombs on the one small country that all the bombs dropped in WW II put together. All because of our ideology. I'm sure some people were thinking the same thing about America, won't they repeat history and attack another country for no good reason? Maybe we just did. And we will probably do it again. Well what if not all Americans agreed with war? Doesn't matter they still elected a president who lies to get us into wars and doesn't get punished once it's over. Should we kill all Americans? I think not, I think that we are all guilty of unjust hate, and that we should all resort to peace more than violence. In Gandhi's words "If everyone belived in an eye for an eye, the world would be blind."
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Post by richyrichard on Aug 3, 2003 23:08:38 GMT -5
World Jewish population in 1930...........13 mil
World Jewish population in 1950............15 mil
Number of Jews killed in bogus "holocaust"....0
Number of Aryans killed in Zionist contrived WWII....many many millions.
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Post by Dreamcatcher on Aug 4, 2003 16:27:51 GMT -5
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Post by Dreamcatcher on Aug 5, 2003 17:44:36 GMT -5
Sentinel, are you dening that the holocaust existed or are you questioning the numbers??? What is the difference; 5 or 6 or 4 million. The fact remains the same. The answer to the jewish question was extermination.
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Post by jonboi on Aug 6, 2003 17:21:38 GMT -5
Sentinel ... If you are not defending Hitler and his actions then just what are you doing? One of Hitler’s and other Nazi’s reasons for the extermination of Jews was because of the idiotic notion that they were a people only out for self -promotion and the containment of others. There is or was not a “Jewish Goal”. If anything you are most likely disgruntled at the fact that you may work for a Jew, have someway been undercut by a Jew, or lost to a Jew in life some how. The fact of the matter is that there are an estimated 9 million people that died by the hand of Hitler and an estimated 6 million we in fact Jewish. The total of the Jewish victims is just over 5,750,000 and is based on such country-by-country and region by region records as survive. These numbers are from men, women (many of which were pregnant at the time of deportation) and children that were known to be dead or were without any known whereabouts after being added to deportation trains. This number is not forgetting the many thousands that were exterminated under the Nazi plan for being in various social and political groups which Hitler was opposed to. And HONESTLY… if the number was six million, six thousand, six hundred or even six. The whole act was and is unjustifiable. So let whomever MILK all they want..
And here are some numbers…. They are rough but you’ll get the picture.
Albania: 200 Germany: 160,000 Belgium: 28,518 Bessarabie: 200,000 Bucovine: 124,632 Crete: 260 Denmark: 77 Estonia: 1,000 Finland: 11 France: 83,000 Greece: 65,000 Holland: 106,000 Hungary: 200,000 Italy: 8,000 Kos: 120 Lettonia: 80,000 Libya: 562 Lituania: 135,000 Luxemburg: 700 Macedonia: 7,122 Memel: 8,000 Norway: 728 Poland: 3,000,000 Rhodes: 1,700 Roumania: 40,000 Rhutenia: 60,000 Czechoslovakia: 217,000 Thrace: 4,221 Transylvania: 105,000 Soviet Union 1,000,000 Yougoslavia: 60,000 TOTAL: 5,693,851
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Post by Allan on Aug 14, 2003 20:09:02 GMT -5
Excerpts: (from Mien Kampf) "What soon gave me cause for very serious consideration were the activities of the Jews in certain branches of life, into the mystery of which I penetrated little by little. Was there any shady undertaking, any form of foulness, especially in cultural life, in which at least one Jew did not participate? On putting the probing knife carefully to that kind of abscess one immediately discovered, like a maggot in a putrescent body, a little Jew who was often blinded by the sudden light." (p.42)
"And so I believe to-day that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator. In standing guard against the Jew I am defending the handiwork of the Lord." (p.46)
"The yoke of slavery is and always will remain the most unpleasant experience that mankind can endure. Do the Schwabing decadents look upon Germany’s lot to-day as ‘aesthetic’? Of course, one doesn’t discuss such a question with the Jews, because they are the modern inventors of this cultural perfume. Their very existence is an incarnate denial of the beauty of God’s image in His creation." (p.107)
"What we have to fight for is the necessary security for the existence and increase of our race and people, the subsistence of its children and the maintenance of our racial stock unmixed, the freedom and independence of the Fatherland; so that our people may be enabled to fulfil the mission assigned to it by the Creator." (p.125) "From time immemorial, however, the Jews have known better than any others how falsehood and calumny can be exploited. Is not their very existence founded on one great lie, namely, that they are a religious community, whereas in reality they are a race? And what a race! One of the greatest thinkers that mankind has produced has branded the Jews for all time with a statement which is profoundly and exactly true. He (Schopenhauer) called the Jew “The Great Master of Lies”. Those who do not realize the truth of that statement, or do not wish to believe it, will never be able to lend a hand in helping Truth to prevail." (p.134)
"In short, the results of miscegenation are always the following: (a) The level of the superior race becomes lowered; (b) physical and mental degeneration sets in, thus leading slowly but steadily towards a progressive drying up of the vital sap.
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Post by MO on Aug 14, 2003 21:43:03 GMT -5
So what is your point? Most people have already read "Mien Kampf"
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Post by Allan on Aug 15, 2003 6:36:43 GMT -5
"My point"?
Why the attack on me, the messenger?
Hitler was correct in 1924, wasn't he?
So was Jesus and the Bible, Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh, and many others (proven by history).
Jews have control of the U.S. government today as they had control of Germany before Hitler.
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Post by MO on Aug 15, 2003 18:38:32 GMT -5
"The claim is sometimes made that Hitler was a Christian - a Roman Catholic until the day he died. In fact, Hitler rejected Christianity." "The book Hitler's Secret Conversations 1941-1944 published by Farrar, Straus and Young, Inc.first edition, 1953, contains definitive proof of Hitler's real views. The book was published in Britain under the title, _Hitler's Table Talk 1941-1944, which title was used for the Oxford University Press paperback edition in the United States. " All of these are quotes from Adolf Hitler: Night of 11th-12th July, 1941: National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things. (p 6 & 7) 10th October, 1941, midday: Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure. (p 43) 14th October, 1941, midday: The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.... Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse.... ...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.... Christianity the liar.... We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State. (p 49-52) More- This from- answers.org/apologetics/hitquote.html
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Post by Allan on Aug 15, 2003 19:16:08 GMT -5
I accept that Hitler may have said those things, but what Christianity was he speaking of? If he was speaking of the Christianity that is the bane of civilation then he surely was correct. And then those speaches prove nothing about his personal religion. And it really matter not whether he was religious or not. Read Ingersol's "Selected Lectures" about the evils of Christianity (religion). And Revilo P. Oliver …speeches and broadcasts may be read and listened to at the below site. www.revilo-oliver.com/Audio/Audio.html
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Post by Mrs Firstborn on Aug 19, 2003 4:45:52 GMT -5
Most of the posters on this thread would be locked up for mental illness if they tried to put theSE DELUSIONS ON THE STREETS! Please, check your sources to make sure they're credible & PLEASE, DON'T VOTE! ;D
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Post by Allan on Aug 19, 2003 14:20:37 GMT -5
How about Henry Ford was he insane too?
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Post by Zhavric on Aug 20, 2003 14:39:46 GMT -5
Do you remember when Clinton was bombing Serbia back in the 90's? Think what you want about that; it's not the point.
While this was going on... while we were dropping explosives and firing depleted uranium rounds at Serbia, I was on ICQ, here in my comfy midwest home. I happened to get a message from someone asking me if I was Danish. I answer no, I'm American. The reply I got was "Oh... I'm Serbian."
It's a strange era to live in when you can have a real time conversation with someone your government is trying to bomb.
Anyway, getting to the point, this guy had an excuse for everything the Serbs had done and made it sound like whoever they had ethnically cleansed were the bad guys. "Where was the U.S. when they did xyz to us? Where were you then?"
What I've come to realize is that in situations like Serbia and Isreal, there is no moral high ground. Maybe there was decades ago, but not anymore. EVERYONE has dirty hands.
It's like dealing with two children. "He hit me!" "I hit him cause he stepped on my foot!" "I stepped on his foot because he said my mom is ugly." "I did not!" "Yes you did! See, you just lied. You're a liar." "Am not."
Only instead of stepping on feet they're bombing and shooting each other.
-Zhavric
Oh, and in my opinion, anyone who thinks that WWII never happened... well, that just makes me think that their education never happened.
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