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Post by Patriot on Dec 7, 2004 13:30:37 GMT -5
Oh, right, Vagrant. Several hundred thousand dead and mutilated Buddhists and Hindus constitute an "objective opinion" on par with your personal viewpoint. That's the sheer nonsense perpetrated by the liberal media.
I'm finished bantering back and forth with you. Re-read my original posts in the next few weeks.
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Post by Vagrant on Dec 7, 2004 15:49:51 GMT -5
Sweet, I get the last word in then. ;D
What I quoted from your earlier post was a fact about an opinion, I never said that the wars in Kashmir and other Islamic atrocities never happened.
What I have a problem with is that your posts about Islam smacks of the same hatred and intolerance as the lefts mocking of Christianity.
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Post by Patriot on Dec 7, 2004 16:03:10 GMT -5
Oops! Looks like you slipped again on the first rule of this thread: an exactness of terminology. What made you think I wouldn't reply? Because I said I was finished "bantering" with you? I never said I was finished "discussing" with you.
Merriam Webster defines bantering as: good-natured and usually witty, animated joking. After all, I assumed you were/are joking. You wrote,
What I quoted from your earlier post was a fact about an opinion.
You meant to say, "opinion about a fact". How do I know this? Because you continued by saying,
I never said that the wars in Kashmir and other Islamic atrocities never happened.
Good, you are at least willing to acknowledge facts (although you forget to mention Tibet and India, but I assume that's covered in your reference to "other atrocities"). Are you aware that the Muslim invasion of India caused more deaths than the Nazi Holocaust? Probably not. But we'll get to that.
You leave with an ultimatum:
What I have a problem with is that your posts about Islam smacks of the same hatred and intolerance as the lefts mocking of Christianity.
Note quite, Vagrant. The critical difference here is that I'll back up my claims. That puts truth on my side. This isn't an exercise of intolerance. It's an exercise in factual research. I know that has a tendency to rub folks the wrong way, in our hedonistic society unaccustomed to subjective truth. But, sticking to the old Latin motto: Ex Umbris in Veritatem.
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Post by Vagrant on Dec 7, 2004 19:11:19 GMT -5
Tibetan monks and the Indian Sifus will be the first to tell you that that the only safe Muslim is a dead Muslim. Thats a fact about an opinion. 'At least willing to admit'? Please, I would be the first to admit that Islam is far from innocent . Apparently, you feel that I am some sort of liberal detractor out for conservative blood. Allow me to let you know, sir, that I am in fact a conservative, just right of center as a matter of fact. You can put as many truths as you want to on this board. I will not accept that Christians are somehow morally superior to Muslims. Yes Islam has commited evil acts, not the least of which is the so-called moderate Muslims not doing a damn thing about terrorism, but to infer that Christians are somehow better smacks of hypocrisy.
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Post by Patriot on Dec 7, 2004 21:07:25 GMT -5
Vagrant,
You've taken a single sentence out of my original post (one that rings of truth), and subverted it into what you'd like to believe is simply "religion bashing" on my part.
Conservative or not, at least be good enough to understand what I've stated repeatedly in this thread: that this topic is for the sole purpose of historical and textual investigation vis-a-vis facts. I have no desire to get caught up in surface-level tangents which draw away from the aim of the thread. You haven't even allowed me to present any real data as of yet. Unless I get that chance, how can you expect me to validate an argument?
You wrote,
I will not accept that Christians are somehow morally superior to Muslims.
Did I ever say anything to that effect? What I said, Vagrant, is that I plan on delineating what Islam really teaches, in comparison to what Christianity and Judaism really teach. If you think I'll be pulling out doctrinal statements from the Southern Baptist Convention, think again. We're going back to basics, here. The words of Jesus versus the words of Muhammad. And the patterns of behavior condoned in the New Testament in contrast to those sanctioned by the Koran.
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