Hannity & Limbaugh are as bad as Kennedy & Gore

[Dutter50]

I listen to Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh every day, because that is all we get on the radio during the day her in our "liberal media" (Colmes comes on KLIF at 10:30... when everyone listens to the radio...). Have listened to both shows for about 3 years now.
The scariest thing about those shows is not their outrageous hipocrisy, blinding ego's, distortion of the truth, party whoring, school yard bully interview tactics with people who try to amicably disagree with them (especially Hannity! He is unREAL!). No the scariest thing is the people who call to get on the radio so they can pat each other on the backs for being great Americans in a big love fest with the hosts. Without question it is an insecurity thing. It is so much easier to believe that you are righteous, than it is to accept that you are human. Especially with famous people at your disposal to validate those feelings, in the name of garnering ratings and a loyal fan base. After all, they have to be right... they're famous. Sure you can disagree, but you're wrong because you don't have a radio show, and both those guys will laugh in your face if you differ (caller: "I'm just not sure I'm convinced that we Americans shouldn't take on at least a fraction of the blame for Sept 11th" Rush: "Ah ha ha ha ha ... oh Steve you poor poor man.... Why do you hate America?" ) You can just feel how righteous they all beleive they are, and they are fueled by the bloated smirking hosts of those shows. People like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity are too egotistical to be trusted, just like Ted Kennedy and Al Gore. They can never be wrong. If they say something that is later proven to be wrong, count on it that they will not be willing to give one inch!! And it's just another Liberal conspiracy anyways. Because we all know, Liberals hate America (who is the brilliant person who first shat out that logic?) It isn't that they don't want to admit that they are wrong, it's that it is inconceiveable that they might be. And that mindset is fueled by their callers... I can't be wrong, all these people believe in me. This is all evidenced by their unending hipocracy. Lets take Rush's drug problem for example. It's incredible to me that after his own ordeal with drugs (has anyone seen the info on that? it is unreal the amount of pills this guy was taking), he was still unwilling to change his previous stance on the issue (ie "There should be no 3 strikes, these people should go straight to jail"). By that reasoning, you should be in prison Rush! Should you not be held to the same standards you advocate everyone else be held to? Can you really not give an inch in the name of reason and logic?? No. Because you exist in the non-reality based world of the media and that would make you fallible, and hurt your credibility with your base, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR A HOST. They're like babies, it's infuriating. These guys are dangerous as far as their influence on common thought. There is no question they are a detriment to the progress and intellectual growth of the United States, as much as Gore, Kennedy and a hundred other pundits from the right and left (don't get me started on Ann Coulter, the most insecure person alive). I truly hope, for the sake of America, that the majority of people out there do not believe that John Kerry is a traitor, or that George Bush is Imperialistic and Evil. Down with extremism!! Down with self serving talk show hosts!!! Wake up and think for yourselves America!!!

[MO]

Pfffff!

Why are you comparing entertainers to elected officials? You must think much more of them than you claim to or you wouldn't have such high standards for them. They can't even be held to the same standards as Dan Blather because they don't even claim to be non biased journalists. You claim to have this disdain for them, yet you listen to them. How retarded is that? Are you sure you're not on drugs?

Why not compare them to other entertainers? I'd say liberal Hollywood has quite a few people who have developed drug problems. As long as people like Alec Baldwin go on network TV and talk about killing elected Republicans, your RANT will ring hollow.

[Dutter50]

I listen to them because they are all that's on down here as far as political talk during the day, and I gotta listen to something. Why is that retarded? Do you only listen to people you totally agree with? Come on. Dan Rather is an ass, Alec Baldwin is an ass. They have extreme opinions that aren't consistent with reality, and I mentioned people just like them in my original post. Tom Cruise is the only one in Hollywood with any integrity, because he won't discuss his political views cause he doesn't want to influnce how people will vote. That is character. No you can't compare Hannity and Rush to elected officials, they have a much farther reach and are 20 times more influential on people's political opinions than any elected official outside of the highest levels. In fact, name any elected official including the president who has an audience of 30 million + for 3 hours a day, 5 days a week? They are entertainers in that they have to hold people's interest, but that's it. There is no question they are part of the media machine that tells people what to think (statistically the biggest parts on the right). I do compare them to other entertainers, why did it bother you so much that I compared them to Al Gore and Ted Kennedy? Do you remember Al Gore shouting that George Bush "betrayed this country." Do you remember Ted Kennedy declaring that the "atrocities of Abu Ghraib have opened up under new management, the US military"?? Did you watch, right after that, those maniacs behead that poor screaming kid in retaliation for Abu Ghraib? Which of course has now turned into beheadapalooza, and they're doing it in Haiti too. Ted Kennedy and CBS should be held accountable to Nick Berg's parents. And CBS should be held accountable to the President of the United States for what they've done. Probably every person in Hollywood has a drug problem, but they're not the ones advocating prison for first time offenders now are they? I've known great people who developed drug problems, then got over it with some help. It is a shame that Rush couldn't have taken his situation and done something good to help & spread awareness about the disease of drug addiction. Instead he stubbornly and stupidly stuck to his guns and made lame excuses. The height of hipocracy. Look it up, see some of the things he said about drug addicts before his little secret got out. And I'm sorry but Donovan McNabb is greatness, and Rush is a racist in denial.

[MO]

It's a free market system. They are getting ratings or they wouldn't have jobs.

[americanfirst]

Bingo! Mo! Youv'e got it right. I honestly believe that if Rush thought he could earn another $250 mil by switching tomorrow to the libs he'd do it. They earn their money by pushing people's button's on both sides of the political spectrum. Pay me that much and I would probably go on the air and argue the Martians point of view.

[Dutter50]

MO said:

It's a free market system. They are getting ratings or they wouldn't have jobs.

Yes, you are pointing out the obvious. That is one reason they are dangerous. They sell their opinions as fact, when in reality they're just ratings Ho's. Millions of people buy their bs.

Also, you shouldn't just close a thread cause you feel like it, (referring to different thread) at least let me reply. Figures...

[MO]

If I am pointing out the "obvious" why do you assume others are too dense to know the difference between political commentary and news? Seems like an obvious contradiction there. Millions of people listen because they already agree with them or want to hear for one reason or another.

If you have a problem with one of my mod actions, put it in a pm. That's just considered basic netiquette on all boards.

[Dutter50]

I have no idea what mod actions or pm's are, I am totally new to this. Bet that makes me a stupid spineless liberal who isn't "intellectually honest" enough to know all the intricacies of netiquette right? I never said these people are dense, you said that. People always look to someone to follow. It's a shame so many are prey for Rush and Sean.

[MO]

To say they are "prey" for Rush and Sean is insulting. People have a choice and because you don't like the choice you denigrate them. The fact is, liberal talk radio has been a miserable failure. The only kind that survives is the kind they fund with our tax dollars like the true communists that they are.

Until you can figure out the private message function, don't question my board decisions.

[Dutter50]

or how bout i do whatever i feel like, nazi

[MO]

[Dut50]

Figures...

But you can call me a commie though

Same old same old, don't hold yourself to the same standards you hold everyone else.

Hope everyone knows that Nazi Mo had me banned from this website. Can't take your own shiat? That's the standard from you people. Disagree with someone? Supress them any way you can. You're so powerful...

Probably look like your cro magnon picture.

Well I had fun these past couple of days on this website, learned alot about people. Like to stay longer but I'm going to be booted again now, I imagine with some cute lil emoto-thingy saying sionara (see I'm learning netiquette).

Bye again! Vote!

[MO]

Bye now. You've really been a gentleman. I'll assume most liberals act that way. They seem to.

To all! I'll type this slow so all will understand in case the name of the board didn't tip you off. This is a conservative board! That means we don't claim to not have any bias. Don't like that you can't be down right ugly and nasty to conservatives? Take it to Democraticunderground.com. You won't have any problem with conservatives over there because they don't even allow them to speak, much less get nasty on their first post. All you'll ever see from one of us is one post, even if it is kind and respectful, it will still be deleted when the mods see it. They are the largest liberal board. They don't allow opposing view points at all.

All we ask here is that you be civil.

And for the record, if you'll notice, I didn't call him a communist. I called liberals communists.

I suppose there is a slight difference in the two. Communists are more honest about their intentions.

[scummybear]

Good riddance.
Too bad he was too stupid to figure out the pm feature. I just wanted to say goodbye.

[D50]

Lets review shall we? After my first post where I spoke to noone and insulted noone, Mo called me retarded and on drugs. In response to other posts she has called me stupid, and a communist (she has previously referred to me as a liberal, who of course are all commnists. That's "for the record"). Also that I'm not "intelligent or intellectually honest enough to recognize a hit and run spam piece," as if that makes any sense whatsoever. Intellectual honesty refers to remaining honest in the context of your thought process, but whatever.

Lets quote Scummybear now:
TruthIsRight's question:
"Hi -

There is a lot about Bush that I had liked, but when i'm honest with myself, the things i've read have kinda made me wonder a little. I don't fully understand all the issues, but this website has helped. It talks about the war, and the economy. Are these facts true? did the war in Iraq really make things easier for Al Qaeda? Can you help me figure this out? Thanks so much for your help!

-Searching"

Scummybear's Response:
"You're right about one thing; you really don't understand the issues.
You're also too much a coward to post the name of the "website" in your post.
You're also an agregious liar. I'm quite convinced that there was never anything you liked about Bush. You're just like the "undecided" voters, who I've heard say things like, "Yeah, I was gonna vote for Bush, until the debate. . ." What a crock!
As for your website. . . pfffff. Get a life!!"

Also called me "too stupid to figure out the pm function." You really think anyone is too stupid to figure out the pm function? How bout that I just don't really care? That says alot about you. "I'm brilliant! I know the pm function!!"

Yes it was a cheesy ultralib website. Doesn't mean it wasn't a legit question from a beginner (or "newbie" as they like to condescend. It's like saying "you're waaaay outta your league").

StratoGhost called me a coward ("If the left had their way, we would all become Wahhibist Muslims or die. Better buy a prayer rug, you coward.") even though my post did not conatain one reference to politics or current events (it was a reponse against scummybear's tirade)

Yes you guys are so above insults

You should all be embarrased, but that would contradict your irrational pride. Probably cut into your time congratulating each other for being great Americans.

You people are a joke.

I've never been booted off any lib website for my rants against liberals...

As long as you want to keep misleading everyone, I'll keep creating a new name.