Ii see you have no origional thought-censor this

[bushissatan2haha]

I own a business and make just as much money as anyone on this sight. I have big houses and a bunch of toys. However, when is enough, enough? why are people so greedy? Its ruining this country. As far as conservatives spouting off about working your way up to make something of yourself...what about Enron? what about these large cooperations (with the Bush admin in their pocket) that are allowed to take the earnings of people who HAVE worked their whole life to make something of themslves? Is that a handout? Should that be standard practice for Corporate America? If so, i pity all of you and most of all, this great country. WAKE UP! I'm all about people supporting themselves. I DON'T believe in Handouts. However, some of us are not Born rich. Some us need help going to college(or as you would say handouts) to work our way up from nothing. THAT IS WHAT THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON! The Greed and shortsightedness of this administration is ruining this country. Thank God there are elections every 4 years so we can get this Crook out of office. It will be a Glorious Day in November when gw is kicked out of office. Maybe then we can get back on track as a Nation of self-helpers and once again be a leader that the world respects and looks up to. Maybe then there will be a chance for our Grandchildren to enjoy an unpolluted environment, get a good education and live in a country where the rest of the world DOES NOT want to kill us. The only political party I belong to is that of Right and Wrong. Call me Liberal if you want, but at least I'm a Patriot and i have many friends and we WILL take back this country.

[MO]

I can tell when a liberal posts without even reading it. They are shift key challenged.

[scummybear]

bushissatan2haha said:

I own a business and make just as much money as anyone on this sight. I have big houses and a bunch of toys. However, when is enough, enough? why are people so greedy? Its ruining this country. As far as conservatives spouting off about working your way up to make something of yourself...what about Enron? what about these large cooperations (with the Bush admin in their pocket) that are allowed to take the earnings of people who HAVE worked their whole life to make something of themslves? Is that a handout? Should that be standard practice for Corporate America? If so, i pity all of you and most of all, this great country. WAKE UP! I'm all about people supporting themselves. I DON'T believe in Handouts. However, some of us are not Born rich. Some us need help going to college(or as you would say handouts) to work our way up from nothing. THAT IS WHAT THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON! The Greed and shortsightedness of this administration is ruining this country. Thank God there are elections every 4 years so we can get this Crook out of office. It will be a Glorious Day in November when gw is kicked out of office. Maybe then we can get back on track as a Nation of self-helpers and once again be a leader that the world respects and looks up to. Maybe then there will be a chance for our Grandchildren to enjoy an unpolluted environment, get a good education and live in a country where the rest of the world DOES NOT want to kill us. The only political party I belong to is that of Right and Wrong. Call me Liberal if you want, but at least I'm a Patriot and i have many friends and we WILL take back this country.

Is that you Pukaman?
Come on, is somebody helping you?
Priceless.

[kirnodel]

I would have to agree with what was originally said. The Bush administration really is favoring the rich. If you look back to election time he proposed that "by far the vast majority" of his tax cut would go to the poor. Over a third of that tax break went to the top 1% and over half of it went to the top 5%. You can call me a stupic liberal, or an America-hater, or a communist, or whatever you want to spew, but the average US citizen now has to pay off $23,500 in federal debt thanks to Bush being in office. About half of that comes from his tax "breaks". But don't feel depressed! The average American got a $600 check as a result of that $1,000,000,000,000 tax cut! Yay!

[TNRighty]

Yes, we should help people make something of themselves, but we do not owe a single penny to those who have CHOSEN NOT to take advantage of the opportunities this country provides. I don't own a business, and I probably don't make more money than anyone on this site. Yet someday I would like to. We have to preserve the spirit of entreprenuership. Rich people are not all bad. How many poor people have ever given you a job? Small business owners like Satan-boy are the backbone of the nation's economy, regardless what he thinks of Bush. They're the ones who create jobs. They're the ones that sign the paychecks, yet when you sack them with rediculous corporate taxes you limit their ability to expand their business and their employee base. Successful small business owners are the ones who have proven themselves to make wise decisions with their money. Makes sense to me that we should let these people keep more of the money they make.

[BOLO]

I would have to agree with what was originally said. The Bush administration really is favoring the rich.

Really! Soooooo how come there are more Rich Democrat Senators, and Representatives than Republican?
How come there are more Rich Democrat Office holders than Republican?
Just curious.
Also how come I am not rich, yet I got a tax break?
How come all my fellow Blue Collar workers got one also, and they really liked it, and were not in the least bit jealous?
And oh yeah overall, how come so many Rich registered Democrats in comparison to Registered Rich Republicans?
Huh? How come? Huh?

[BOLO]

If you look back to election time he proposed that "by far the vast majority" of his tax cut would go to the poor. Over a third of that tax break went to the top 1% and over half of it went to the top 5%.

No that is not what he said. Please show me the quote, or speech where you think he said that. He did not say that at all. Were you watching this on the Twilight Zone Channel?
Over one third of the tax break did not go to the top 5. Show us the figures you used.
That would be interesting.
That the top 1% pays more taxes thus getting back a higher percentage is true.
Did, and Do, you feel you are entitled to get more back after paying less in?

You can call me a stupic liberal, or an America-hater, or a communist, or whatever you want to spew, but the average US citizen now has to pay off $23,500 in federal debt thanks to Bush being in office.

What is a stupic? Will we get in trouble with the EEOC or anyone for calling you that? I mean I will if you want, but I really don't know whether that is ethnic or not.
Spew? Spew what? Who spews. Maybe you are Pukaman, or Peanut, or Ted on an excellent adventure.
Your figures are off again. Where do you get them?

About half of that comes from his tax "breaks". But don't feel depressed! The average American got a $600 check as a result of that $1,000,000,000,000 tax cut! Yay

Really. I didn't. Aww. I'm not average. I only got three hundred. I must be poor. Damn. Will I have to give back the Navigator. Start driving a Manza? Lord above what will I do with out my Gator?
You have ruined my day. You satisfied?
Who is this really???. UBE, frankiegoestotoke?
No fair peeking? ;D

[pukaman]

Apocalypse Bush!
Why care for the planet when the End Times are almost here? Vote Bush and
hop on the salvation train!
ÊÊ


By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist
Wednesday, September 8, 2004


Mark Morford's Notes & Errata column appears every Wednesday and Friday on
SF Gate, unless it appears on Tuesdays and Thursdays, which it never does. Subscribe to this column at sfgate.c
Ê


This is the great thing about rabid fundamentalism. You really just don't
have to give a damn.

ÊTake the environment. I mean, isn't it just a little pointless to care so
damn deeply about the air and the soil and the water and the stupid little
disposable animals on this silly spinning ball of expendable rock when the
Second Coming is imminent and a blood-soaked fire-breathin' Jesus who looks
remarkably like Mel Gibson will return very soon to smite the heathens and
the gays and the vegetarians and the Francophiles, and who will rescue all
those who worship patriarchy and country music and blue-chip oil portfolios?
You're goddamn right it is.

ÊLook. This much has become clear. Bush is, more than anything else, an
extreme fundamentalist Christian. He is widely regarded as the most openly
pious and sanctimonioous president in modern American history. He actually
preaches the GOP screed in evangelical churches across America. He panders
so slavishly to the anti-choicers and the Bible-thumpers and the homophobes
it makes Jerry Falwell swoon and giggle.

ÊAnd Bush actually says, out loud, that God speaks through him, and that God
is on our side [when] we bomb the living crap out of Afghanistan and Iraq and that
it is the Almighty's wish that we take control of these angry pip-squeak
nations and in so doing kill thousands of civilians and tens of thousands of
young Iraqi soldiers, as over 1,000 American soldiers are now dead over a
makeshift cause that never really existed. God wanted it this way, that's
why.

ÊBush has called Jesus his "favorite philosopher." He has claimed that the
act of being "born-again" saved him from a long, sad life of vaguely
homoerotic frat parties and repetitive binge drinking and going AWOL from
the National Guard, all so he could turn his full attention to righteously
ruining multiple businesses and then making Texas the most murderous and
polluted state in the union.

ÊBut, you know, why stop there?

ÊGod, of course, isn't just about the current Iraqi war. Bush understands
this. Nor is God just about slamming gays or creating nasty, isolationist
foreign policy. God is not merely about setting those gul-dang Muslim
heathens straight about who is the supreme big-daddy all-powerful
mega-righteous SUV-drivin' American-flag-wavin' God and who is just a
dimestore wannabe false idol scruffy Allah.

ÊBecause above all, God is nothing if not all about putting a quick and
fiery stop to all this Earthly nonsense ASAP. He is nothing if not all about
the coming apocalypse. And He is nothing if not all about saving those who
believe, as Bush does, that he is among the chosen to be saved.

ÊThis is the fundamentalist truth. And this is the BushCo maxim. The End
Times provide the ultimate meaning, the final straw, the only thing worth
caring about, because it defines the BushCo worldview like nothing else
except maybe embarrassing grammar and crushing deficits and a secret craving
for gin. You can see it in his sad, vacant eyes: Bush is absolutely
convinced that God is a Republican. Why else would He create all those cool
M-1 tanks and oil refineries and those neat deer-antler chandeliers?
Exactly.

ÊDo you see? Do you get it? If not, you haven't been reading nearly enough
of those silly pulpy sociopathic gazillion-selling "Left Behind" doomsday
books so frighteningly adored by the Christian Right. It's simple, really:
The world is gonna end real soon. The End Times are comin'. All the signs
are in place -- famine, war, disease, sodomy, fires, hurricanes, Avril
Lavigne -- and Bush, by instigating holy wars and inciting more terrorism
and burning through the planet's natural resources as fast as humanly
possible, is merely hastening the blessedly inevitable. As his fellow
fundamentalists say, God bless him.

ÊHey, it explains a lot, this view. It explain how Bush can just smirk and
mumble and, with one big, heartless shrug, dismiss the complete lack of WMD
and the loss of 1.6 million U.S. jobs and the nation's staggering $422
billion budget deficit. Pay down the national debt? Bah. Planet's going to
hell anyway, people. Stock up on nuclear missiles and get yourself an escape
pod. Can't afford one? Whatta shame.

ÊIt surely explains the general GOP hatred of gay marriage, of open-hearted
sex, of those wicked, sin-inducing vaginas (that harlot Eve is gonna pay,
dammit), of environmentalism, of caring about air quality and water quality
and the EPA and organic foods and homeopathic medicine and resource
management and the Alaska Wildlife Refuge and the U.N. and any country that
doesn't have a McDonald's and a Starbucks and a decent strip club for lonely
gin-soaked Republican expats.

ÊAnd it explains not only the outright contempt for any view other than
Bush's own, but the willingness to legislate that hatred, codify it, to make
it outright illegal to think or feel or love otherwise.

ÊLook at it this way: When you have an angry, patriotic God and the red-hot
promise of the juicy apocalypse on your side, there is no such thing as a
counter-argument. There is no such thing as competition. There is no such
thing as giving a damn what anyone else thinks.

ÊHow else do you explain it? How else can you understand the most
aggressive, war-hungry, abusive, nature-loathing, isolationist
administration in American history? How else can you explain BushCo's
overall "F" grade from every environmental organization in the world? How
can you explain his mauling of long-term Social Security planning? The
decimation of the idea of universal health care? A pre-emptive,
attack-first-ask-questions-never, warmongering policy that creates more
anti-U.S. hatred by the minute?

ÊHow can you explain the fact that every human rights organization on the
planet is appalled by Bush's actions? Guantanamo Bay to Abu Ghraib to John
Ashcroft to the Patriot Act to gutting funding for international women's
health care. Hey, if God had wanted us to care about other viewpoints, He
would've made everyone speak English. Can I get a "hell yeah?"

ÊThis lust for apocalyptica, then, is perhaps the best way we have to at
least partially understand the shamelessness of this administration's
policies and its blatant disregard for international law, its open hatred of
any nation that disagrees with us and the deep, profound concern only for
nations that either cower in our God-flexin' presence and/or have resources
that Bush's corporate pals are salivating to exploit.

ÊAnd it is the perhaps ultimate explanation for the Right's final cattle
call, its bitter war cry of a message, its exact parallel to every
pseudo-religious evangelical scam artist on late-night cable TV.

ÊListen, good people of America. If you just send your money to the party
and give up all that careful, nuanced thinking, if you just quit
questioning our decisions and load up on blind faith, it will all be OK and
you can have all the guns and fast food you want and those terrifying gays
will leave you alone because BushCo will take care of you and God will
reserve your seat on the glory train to salvation. Deal? Praise Jesus!
Praise Bush/Cheney! Hallelujah you are saved! Even as we are, you know,
doomed.

ÊIsn't bogus salvation fun?

[BOLO]

There's that drone again.
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWNNNNNN
Streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetch
Um my. Nothing happening here. Comfortable unintelligible Little drone. makes you sleepy.
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWN

[UncleVinny]

Let’s do some math with your taxes.
There are 280 million people in America.
Every billion dollars spend by the US is $3.57 per person, man, woman and child.

The defense budget is about $450 billion, for a total of $1,607 for every person.
If there are four people in your household, that is $6,428 per year in taxes for your family.
The war in Iraq added (so far) $200 billion; that’s another $714 per person, or $2,856 per family of four.
Total cost for defense and Iraq per year: $2,321 per person, or $9,284 per family of four.

Is that what the flag waving war monger want?
These colors don't run the world!

[TNRighty]

Uncle Vinny wants to do some math, huh?

The National Budget in 2004 was about $2.4 TRILLION. The cost of the war ($200 billion), which has gone on for about two years now would be less than 10% of the budget for 2004, spread that over two years and it accounts for less than 5% of total government spending over that period.

Over the course of the same two years we've spent $1.05 TRILLION on Social Security. Over the last two years we've spent over 4 times as much money on Social Insecurity as we've spent fighting the war.

What's even more funny is that UV, in his previous post, wants to divide the cost of government spending evenly among everyone in this country to make his point. Pretty shocking for a liberal. Ya'll can throw his numbers out the door, because if you're in the bottom 50% of income earners in the US, chances are you didn't pay jack didly poo in taxes. Last year, the top 50% of income earners paid 96.5% of the total income tax revenue collected by the IRS, and thus 96.5% of the cost of the war was shouldered by 50% of American taxpayers.

Originally, the federal government was formed by the states for one reason and one reason only, to form a national defense. National defense should be the single largest expenditure of federal income, period. Defense spending has been surpassed by welfare programs like Social Insecurity among others. Something's wrong with that picture.

[BOLO]

TNrighty said it all.
These Colors Don't run.
These Colors Do run the World.

[bibster]

I can't believe educated people actually believe this dribble. If you look where Bush's admin came from and where they are now compared to Clinton's regime anf Kerry's dictatorship, you'll seee that bush's team came from nothing and Kerry's came from the land of milk 'n Honey.

Kerry is an elitist as is his whole tema of goons, who try and muscle their way into politics. they're not nice people and many around them can't stand these pathetic soles as people.

So you want a Kerry, go ahead.

[pukaman]

bibster said:

I can't believe educated people actually believe this dribble. If you look where Bush's admin came from and where they are now compared to Clinton's regime anf Kerry's dictatorship, you'll seee that bush's team came from nothing and Kerry's came from the land of milk 'n Honey.

Kerry is an elitist as is his whole tema of goons, who try and muscle their way into politics. they're not nice people and many around them can't stand these pathetic soles as people.

So you want a Kerry, go ahead.

I can't believe it either.
Any educated person knows that humble ol' bush was a sharecropper's son that pulled himself up out of poverty by the bootstraps.? His family has had no power or pull for 3 generations.? And Cheney, worked up from welfare father to head of one of the most successfull Co.s on the Planet. ?
Just shows what honesty and rightfull living can do for the unfortunate sons of Multi-Millionaires...
How could any informed person think that bush was part of the Elite ?
Son of millionaires, attended Yale ( on scholarships?). drove a few Co.s in to the ground, son of ex-CIA/PRESIDENT. The fact that bush is proud of his service campaigning while in the National Guard in Alalbama shows his humble folk roots. It was the Elite like Kerry that CHOSE to go to Viet Nam, rather than serve in Alabama, campaigning for a Senator.
I'm so glad that bush is nice. And Compassionate.
If you really want to appreciate bush, check out his New Freedom Initiative for Mental Health.....George,( and eli lilly) have a pill for you.....

[BOLO]

pukaman is envious and jealous. Poor Baby.
He talks like this sentence looks because of it.
It may never get over it. Poor thang.