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Post by PattyT on Oct 26, 2004 18:11:06 GMT -5
I think you have Bush confused with the terrorists. To call him Satan is really nuts. Did you see Faren- HYPE 9/11? If not this is a must see for people that think the way you do. Michael Moore is a Big Fat Lier, and every fact is gone over what he said in his Bash Bush for dollars movie. Have an open mind and rent it. 4 MORE YEARS PattyT I cannot wait until the Bush administration is defeated by a lanslide this november. This will be the most heated election in near history because of the mess gw has made of this country. the masses have been ignighted by the corruption and lies of the Bush administration. the right wing media is defensless against the populous. Thank God there are elections every 4 years before he sells this country to the multinational corporations. Thanks to Bushy, the world hates us. Environment policies are in tatters. What is left of the economy is being outsourced and the educational system is in ruins. Bush and his administration are neo-nazis. He wants the masses to be a bunch of uneducated serfs so he and his cronies can make money off the backs of the common man. I'm of no political party. I believe in what is right and wrong. I believe that America is a Great Nation who's people and ethics deserve more than to be sold to the highest bidder. Glory to America the Day Bush is Kicked out of Office!
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Post by BOLO on Oct 26, 2004 20:59:21 GMT -5
Now that that has been PROVED to be a lie. Will you and your hero Hanoi John Recant? Probably not. After all the Dem Litmus Test is: Vinny you are a joke. Just not funny.
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Post by scummybear on Oct 26, 2004 22:11:19 GMT -5
Yup, the insurgents backed up their half- ton flatbed and hauled off with the 385 tons of "military grade" weapons while we fell asleep. The funny thing about this is that you don't even care that this is b.s. (and if you have any sense at all, you know it is). What I can't understand, is why you continue to slap this non-sense all over the board. You're not making anyone angry, or even causing anyone to give a second thought about what you say, because it's childish and not even worthy of exchange. At the most, it's just annoying. If that's what you're after, then fine, be annoying; just know that you're wasting electricity otherwise. I know of some places that you could go where shallow meaningless discussion, Bush-bashing and hate-filled epithets (kinda like your posts) are welcome and expected. You don't even have to worry about anyone with logical, fact-based thoughts interrupting you, because they are not welcome there (they're too threatening). Anyway, No hard feelings. I just wanted you to know that we all know that you're full of crap. Have a nice evening. (be sure to vote!)
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Post by UncleVinny on Oct 27, 2004 12:01:49 GMT -5
Before the war, the Pentagon's top generals (Tommy Franks and General Shinseki) estimated that we would need "several hundred thousand" troops to invade and occupy Iraq. General Shinseki estimated we would need 480,000 to do the job right. A fellow named Newt Gingrich introduced an Iraq (Lt. Colonel?) to Rumsfeld - this Colonel suggested he could do the job with only about 50,000 commando style troops. That is, invade Baghdad and topple Saddam. Tommy Franks and Shineki protested. Tommy Franks eventually convinced Rumsfeld to go in with 140,000 troops. Tommy Franks allowed his arm to be twisted, despite his better judgement (based on years of military experience about these matters). General Shinseki was fired. Meanwhile, forget about the aftermath - they expected democracy would just spread out and blossom! So now, the Pentagon has instituted a "Stop Loss" program to keep even the 140,000 troops in Iraq, many of them National Guardsmen, who SHOULD be in places like Florida to clean up storm damage. So - Major chaos in Iraq. - Best estimates proven valid: 480,000 troops (over 3X increase) - Declining recruitment - Major offences being planned for Falluja and other areas AND DO YOU STILL THINK THERE WON'T BE A DRAFT? Get real! The politicians will SAY anything to get elected, but believe me, there WILL be a draft. Here is a summary article from the NY Times: Pentagon Contradicts General on Iraq Occupation Force's Size By Eric Schmitt New York Times February 28, 2003 In a contentious exchange over the costs of war with Iraq, the Pentagon's second-ranking official today disparaged a top Army general's assessment of the number of troops needed to secure postwar Iraq. House Democrats then accused the Pentagon official, Paul D. Wolfowitz, of concealing internal administration estimates on the cost of fighting and rebuilding the country. Mr. Wolfowitz, the deputy defense secretary, opened a two-front war of words on Capitol Hill, calling the recent estimate by Gen. Eric K. Shinseki of the Army that several hundred thousand troops would be needed in postwar Iraq, "wildly off the mark." Pentagon officials have put the figure closer to 100,000 troops. Mr. Wolfowitz then dismissed articles in several newspapers this week asserting that Pentagon budget specialists put the cost of war and reconstruction at $60 billion to $95 billion in this fiscal year. He said it was impossible to predict accurately a war's duration, its destruction and the extent of rebuilding afterward "We have no idea what we will need until we get there on the ground," Mr. Wolfowitz said at a hearing of the House Budget Committee. "Every time we get a briefing on the war plan, it immediately goes down six different branches to see what the scenarios look like. If we costed each and every one, the costs would range from $10 billion to $100 billion." - Present cost $200 BILLION and now they are asking for another $75 Billion
Is this the kind of leadership you want?
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Post by BOLO on Oct 27, 2004 19:50:29 GMT -5
Vinny. Did you say something?
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Post by UncleVinny on Oct 27, 2004 23:37:46 GMT -5
Intelligent voters all across this great country have heard the news! One resounding fact: John Kerry has superior intelligence.
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Post by BOLO on Oct 28, 2004 20:31:44 GMT -5
Vinny. I sense your lips are moving, but honest. Nothing is coming out, NOTHING. Alas poor vinny. So much wind. No place for it to go. Alas.
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Post by groucho on Oct 29, 2004 20:02:31 GMT -5
One resounding fact: John Kerry has superior intelligence. Oh, REALLY? ;D
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Post by BOLO on Oct 29, 2004 21:10:03 GMT -5
Kerry Intelligent?
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Post by groucho on Oct 30, 2004 2:50:29 GMT -5
I cannot wait until the Bush administration is defeated by a lanslide this november. Blah, blah, woof woof, wink-wink-grin-grin-say-no-more, on top of spaghetti kerryandedwardsarethetwoofthemostperfectspecimensoforganicfertilizerwehaveeverseenImcarryingtheirbabies....... True liberals - always with the smoke and mirrors; just like good old Uncle Shickelgruber!!! You people can't even learn from history's greatest FRAUD - but then again, you are liberals........... The whole Nazi thing? For starters, Hitler was a b a s t a r d offspring from a standing AUSTRIAN "family" - not the "pure" German he later marketed himself as.... He played (and preyed) on people's fears, while simultaneously surrounding himself with much chaos, in order to keep the masses from looking too deeply at the little man behind the curtain......... And when it came down to his own "final solution," only someone as nutty as Der Mustache himself would fail to see that his policies were LIBERALLY applied - to an on-going cost that the world has yet to calculate. There is no logic, when a liberal uses the word "Nazi," for starters, what is the number of conservative media outlets, as opposed to the liberal ones? TV / Cable network; daily print media (ie newspapers); print media (magazines); film; Internet; whatever - the ratio is about 1,000 - to - 1, in favor of liberalism. And you have the unmitigated NERVE to accuse the conservatives of "suppressing the 1st ammendment?" Your overly-exaggerated view of your worth as a liberal would be comical, if it weren't so tragic; you've literally BECOME the very thing you've been playing fast-and-loose with!! I only hope you truly like what you see in the mirror every morning......
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Post by wakeup on Oct 30, 2004 9:57:18 GMT -5
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Post by groucho on Oct 30, 2004 11:47:07 GMT -5
There you go again....... If you want facts, then don't link to someone's website who wouldn't know a fact if it bit him in the a**!!!!!
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Post by BOLO on Oct 30, 2004 15:48:47 GMT -5
Go back to sleep. It suits you better.
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Post by groucho on Oct 31, 2004 2:37:53 GMT -5
Go back to sleep. It suits you better. See here, Sir!!! We're compassionate, remember? We tolerate ALL brains, no matter how CHALLENGED they may be........... (Although I will admit to a preference of being DOWNWIND*, in times of sudden FLATULENCE pontification!!!) ;D * - as hot air always rises........
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Post by BOLO on Oct 31, 2004 11:15:04 GMT -5
Still gotta have em. Having a box to put something in is not proof that there is something in the box.
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