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Post by Ian on Jun 16, 2005 11:48:40 GMT -5
Edward Klein (former editor in chief of the New York Times, foreign editor of Newsweek, and frequent contributor to Parade and Vanity Fair) has a new book coming out in five days entitled The Truth About Hillary : What She Knew, When She Knew It, and How Far She'll Go to Become President. Among the books more cutting revelations is the charge that Chelsea Clinton is the product of Hillary's rape by Bill. It will be interesting to see what develops... Read the story here: www.drudgereport.com/flash3ek.htm
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Post by scrap on Jun 16, 2005 14:18:16 GMT -5
That horny old dog: can't wait to see what happens on this one.
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Post by midcan5 on Jun 21, 2005 18:01:25 GMT -5
The start of the rambling of the weak, the right wingnuts, afraid of women and hoping that their own lack of manliness can hide from the scrutiny of life but not content in their weakness and self pity to live in that fear alone but needing to strike out at a woman who is strong and represents for them something they cannot be: intelligent, moral and tough. Sad the bad words starts so early among the weak among us.
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Post by Ian on Jun 21, 2005 18:26:11 GMT -5
Wow midcan! Are we short on periods this evening? The right wingnuts? Are you speaking of conservative fasteners, or did you mean "wing nuts"? I'm afraid the former would be easier to digest as I assure you most who know what they talk about would hesitate to label Ed Klein as a "right wing nut". He was after all editor-in-chief of The New York Times for eleven years (1977 to 1988) Contributing Editor of Vanity Fair, Foreign Editor and then Assistant Managing Editor with Jurisdiction over foreign and military affairs for Newsweek as well as a close friend to the Kennedys. So while he may not be a radical liberal, he is certainly not a radical conservative. I suppose one could say his journalistic integrity and strict adherence to impartiality would classify him as neither liberal nor conservative, however, I believe we can all surmise from his career history and personal relationships as to which way the wind blows. By the way midcan, congrats on your discovery of stream-of-consciousness.
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Post by scrap on Jun 21, 2005 18:55:12 GMT -5
Midcan is not short on periods, they seem to spout up left and right, mostly to the left, actually always to the left. Maybe it's PMS
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Post by TNRighty on Jun 24, 2005 17:57:10 GMT -5
I've read the excerpts you posted, and I'm not saying its all false, but some of it seems way over the top even for Bill Clinton. Although I don't think Bill is beyond that sort of behavior, I'd like to see those claims substantiated.
Whether all this is true or false, what we do know for sure is that Hillary is ulitmately an opportunist, and if 25 years ago she believed Bill was her ticket to the White House, that alone would trump any mistreatment she suffered at the hands of old Billy. She is a political whore for sure. That much I know is true. Hillary would sell her soul and sacrifice her first born for the presidency. She is an evil, duplicitous, political windsock, but that doesnt' make Klein's statements true. Perhaps he is playing to a predisposed conception we all have toward the Clinton family.
As for the book, I am very skeptical. Un-namecd sources and anonymous tips don't set well with me. Klein was once executive editor for Newsweek I think?? Correct me if I'm wrong on that, but the point is that he's not exactly a Conservative bomb thrower. I haven't read this book and probably won't. It all seems a bit fishy to me.
Anyways, we'll see what happens.
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Post by Ian on Jun 24, 2005 18:15:24 GMT -5
Righty
This is just one of the many allegations made in the book, but the fact that you state:
actually only reinforces Klein's point. Klein's book isn't aimed at Bill, but at Hillary's insatiable ambition and the various actions she is willing execise/endure to ultimately quence that thirst. This is just one of the purported supporting facts of his thesis.
I do agree with you however that Klein's lack of sources is rather uneasing, nonetheless I am willing to believe his account of things slightly more than I would of say an Ann Coulter. Regardless, I'm interested to see how the left wing attempts to combat the charges and hopefully some sources will be revealed, if they exist.
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Post by TNRighty on Jun 25, 2005 1:27:08 GMT -5
Good point.
My insincts say you are correct, but Klein better be able to back up his story with reputable testimony.
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Post by Archbishop Johnson on Jun 25, 2005 11:45:41 GMT -5
I'd just like to offer a word of godly thanks to both Ian and TN Righty for their thoughtful, relevant, interesting, and in all other ways kosher contributions to this site.
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Post by TNRighty on Jun 26, 2005 15:17:09 GMT -5
"Kosher?"
I thought you were a Catholic. I wouldn't at all expect an archbishop use the adjective "kosher" to compliment someone, given your theocratic odds with Judaism. But more intriguing to me is that, given the Catholic stance on birth control, its odd that you would glorify the dill pickle especially since cucumbers are often used as instruments by which to teach children how to properly use a condom.
Your religious satire and patronizing are annoying. Your act is growing old. You need to get a new shtick, and please put a rubber on your stick. I don't think you should breed.
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Post by Archbishop Johnson on Jun 26, 2005 15:35:51 GMT -5
My dear child,
Our Savior the Lord Jesus was himself a Jew. We are not at odds with Judaism. We are at odds with heathenism, in whatever forms it might take. I do not feel it a sin to employ the word "kosher" in dialogue. We are now on the cusp of an age of reconciliation between those of the Old Covenant and the New.
I'm sorry you didn't take it as a compliment. Evidently it reveals an underlying tone of anti-semitism on your part and hence a dislike for the people of God. As for glorifying dill pickles, I'm not sure how you read that into my posts. But it comes as no surprise considering your lackluster grasp on scriptural interpretation as concerns the Jewishness of the Messiah. Also, as a bishop I am unmarried and hence have no use for rubbers on the stick.
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Post by TNRighty on Jun 26, 2005 17:10:22 GMT -5
As for my comments about Catolicism being at odds with Judaism, I'm only referring to Pope Pius XII's lack of action during WWII.
Neither during the twelve years of Nazi rule nor during the six years of WWII did the Pope use the threat of excommunication against leaders of the Nazi regime or against their subordinates even though many of the perpetrators were raised as Catholics and maintained their identities as Catholics at the same time that they were participating in the Nazi "project." It was not until after the war that Pope Pius condemned those who thought their behavior was compatible with Catholicism.
I may not know the Bible as well as you, but I know my history.
Anyways, that's not what this is about. I'm not anti-Catholic nor am I an anti-semite. I'm anti-YOU. Take your pseudo-religious posturing somewhere else.
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Post by Archbishop Johnson on Jun 27, 2005 7:55:24 GMT -5
My Dear TN Righty,
Greetings on this blessed Monday. Migraine Monday, as I'm apt to call it here in the study. I thank God always that you are inclined to indulge the Church in your thoughts, despite the animosity evidently directed thereunto. Whether ye bless, or curse, at least ye have selected Us as the object of meditation, and for that we are lucky and, for the sake of our commitment to overblown rhetoric, eternally grateful.
It is peculiar that you would harp incessantly upon the failings of Catholicism and insert anti-semitic undertones whilst simultaneously claim to embrace both the Church and the Jews. If your beef is against me, then why go to such lengths attempting to degrade the Church? I'll tell you why. It is because, whether you admit it or not, you have associated me with it. Hence, I stand for that which you see fit to despise. Thus I am a Catholic Bishop in truth, and the target of all your pent up rage.
But, TN Righty, the Lord is good.
T'was not the fault of His Excellency, Pius XII, for the Holocaust. God raises kings and casts them down. No member of the Nazi Party was an active Catholic while serving the Third Reich, and hence, could not really be excommunicated. Besides, the Church must needs protect its Priests and shall not deliver them unto the hand of the Devil-- in this case, Hitler.
Why, TN Righty, do you not also cite similar flaws on the part of Protestant Churches who failed to intervene on behalf of the Jews? Why do you not criticize FDR for his anti-semitic remarks and late entry into the European theatre?
You shall find many more Orthodox Jews holding contempt for FDR than for the Catholic Church.
And the Church did, in fact, rescue as many Jews as was safely possible.
Please continue to offer your inspirational and in all other ways edifying (if ignorant) remarks.
Blessings and Hot Coffee,
AB Johnson
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