Hackers - Please read!!!

[buford]

to all of you hackers:
First off, well done on crashing Al Jazeera after they showed that awful video of dead American soldiers. I dont have a clue how you guys do it, but I have a request. If any of you have the ability and inclination, PLEASE crash moveon.org!!! That group is every bit as damaging to America as Al Jazeera is. Take'em down for a fellow logical, patriotic, conservative republican

SMALLER GOVERNMENT!!!

[Sentinel]

Buford, "I love censorship. If the government won't do it, will someone step up and play vigilante?"

Moveon.org thinks Bush lied. Where would they get an idea like that? If Bush didn't lie, why would you want them censored when you could just refute them. Oh, I see the problem. You can't refute them.

[expat]

Sentinel is correct on this.

Thinking that our latest Fearless Leader does not lie, and believing that the previous Fearless Leader did nothing but lie, is Orwellian Doublethink, the ability to hold two contradictory beliefs and find them both true.

Anyone who lets ideology determine whether they swallow the stuff coming out of Washington DC, or the Press, or whatever, ought to have "Tilt" tattooed on their forehead.

Of course each and every organization (government included) has an agenda. A citizen's only recourse to sanity is to always take everything with a grain of salt and test what one hears from A against B against C and so on. When in doubt, doubt.

If you really need cheerleaders go to a football game and read nothing but the sports pages. If you cannot deal with uncertainty, there is a wide variety of religious sects that serve up TRUTH in capital letters. If reality is too complex, bookstores are crammed with Fantasy novels, and almost any Hollywood movie is simplistic pap, guaranteed to deaden the brain.

PS. Thanks for the tip on www.moveon.com , now I have to check them out and see what their slant is.

Dissent is not treachery. Think where we would be if we were not allowed to criticize Clinton! Think where we will be when four companies own most of the media: corporate versions of Pravda will be all we will see.

Long live Left and Right and may the insight of the one expose the folly of the other! May neither ever "win"!

It is only the competition of ideas that keeps us free, it is only the need for compromise that protects the rights of a minority (such as Methodists, the handicapped, dog owners, etc...) from the majority.

[dollygal]

I thought this was a Conservative Forum. Not So.

I read more liberal stuff than not. Until things change, forget this gal.

[Sentinel]

dollygal said:

I thought this was a Conservative Forum. Not So.

I read more liberal stuff than not. Until things change, forget this gal.

Well, gal, I am a conservative. But, Bush did lie. I am a conservative, but I am against censorship, including by vigilantes. I would think a conservative could appreciate this.

If a college newspaper dares print anything conservative, the liberals on campus come and take all the copies from the distrubution points so that no one can read the paper. Liberals try very hard to censor conservative views. Conservatives try very hard to respect the US Constitution, as it is written, including the First Amendment.

Censorship is the tool of liars. They cannot refute their opponent so they try to silence their opponent.

There are three reasons, I see, why conservatives refuse to accept that Bush is lied us into war. First, they are not really familiar with the evidence. Second, Bush was the "conservative" in the last election, and as liberal as he may be, conservatives are supporting whatever team it is they have. Third...

Liberals are constantly assaulting American pride and sovereignty. By waving the flag in support of this war, conservatives feel as if they are making a statement for American pride and sovereignty.

BTW, the way hackers attack websites is by hijacking computers of innocent 3rd parties. They coordinate an attack with multiple computers to flood the target with so much internet traffic that the target cannot handle the real traffic. So, if you want to help with vigilante censorship, turn off your firewall, turn off your virus scanner, and open and run every email attachment from every bit of spam so that you'll get lucky enough to infect your PC with a trojan that will allow a hacker to hijack your computer.

Also, if Denial of Service attacks (what I described above) ever became a popular political tool, you can bet that it would be conservative websites that would be most victimized by it.

[Cracker Critter]

I applaud you Sentinel......I am new here and centrist who finds herself leaning a bit left. I withdrew from the Republican Party a few months ago because I no longer recognize what it has become. I am trying desparately to make sense of what is going on around us right now....it becomes more dificult with each day that passes. I am so very tired of the lies, propoganda, spin, and self interest put forth from both sides of the aisle. I agree with the other poster who spoke for some balance in power. I also am hoping very much that Wesley Clark would put himself in the running for President. It is interesting that the two men who are spearheading that drive are Republican and Democrat repectively.

I have visited your forum before....I think that I will be spending a bit more time here.

[Foamy Dog]

Yes, this is a Conservative forum.

But, this is also meant be an objective forum.

Just because a person is a Conservative, doesn't mean that he or she is above objective critisism. Whether I agree one way or the other, the forum is open to objective thought.

If you don't like views portrayed here by members; by all means, object and discuss them.

That's the whole point of the forum :-)

--FD

[anon]

If you don't like views portrayed here by members; by all means, object and discuss them.

Or censor them.

[MO]

"Or censor them."

Hmmm, how familiar are you with internet message boards? Try going on the D.U. or Bartcop message boards with a conservative opinion on anything. Most people who lean to the right on any issue are banned after one post. You don't have to use language that would make a truck driver blush or make overtly racist comments in order to be banned from D.U. or Bartcop. Try mentioning the words "gun rights" on the vegsource flame board. It's considered dirty words. The truth is most message boards, particularly the far left political ones, censor the opinions of conservatives while giving lip-service to "tolerance."

In the TRUE spirit of tolerance, this board welcomes different points of view. I believe that is evidenced in the wide variety of views expressed here and the fact that you aren't even required to register. Message boards are privately owned and operated. This board is no more guilty of "censorship" than you are for deciding who can come in your house and what activities you will allow in your living room. All views are welcome as long as they are expressed with basic civility. I don't think that's too much to ask!