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Post by lanandor on Oct 3, 2013 19:14:15 GMT -5
The shut down of our government should be a criminal act! They have shut it down due to a bill getting passed thru proper channels. We put them in office to resolve issues not have their personal fights and using this method to cause many americans, around a million so far, to lose thiere jobs and Federal businesses to shut down.
We need to, at the least, vote them all OUT! How many times are we going to allow them to not do their jobs? They nearly shut down the government during the last two major presidential elections and now they have done it with no real authority as far as I can see. The bill they are arguing over PASSED. They need to work on changing it not punish the citizens of these United States for their process.
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Post by MO on Oct 3, 2013 21:03:51 GMT -5
LOL A criminal act! Sounds like hysterical hyperbole. Had your estrogen levels checked, lately?
It's happened 18 times since the mid 1970s. They haven't "lost their jobs" they're getting time off that they'll eventually be paid for. If they're "non essential" they shouldn't have a job, anyway.
Obamacare has killed more jobs than this ever will.
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Post by lanandor on Oct 5, 2013 22:43:57 GMT -5
Yes a criminal act sense they shut down the government due to a bill that passed the thru all the proper processes.
You just aren't very informed about the people who are effected by this. I'm glad your not, but there are many who are and its sad that those that aren't effected, yet, don't see it/
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Post by midcan5 on Oct 6, 2013 7:30:19 GMT -5
Several interesting commentaries are listed below. I wish I could say, enjoy. "The boy looks alarmed. "A Canadian destroyed the world, Papa?"" www.nytimes.com/2013/10/06/opinion/sunday/dowd-welcome-to-ted-cruzs-thunderdome.html" Sarah Palin finally got her death panels — a direct blow from the Republican House. In shutting down the government, leaving 800,000 people without a paycheck and draining the economy of $300 million a day, the Party of Madness also took away last-chance cancer trials for children at the National Institutes of Health." opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/03/wrong-side-of-history/"This week’s Quinnipiac Poll found 72 percent of Americans opposed to shutting down the government to halt the Affordable Care Act. When asked to pick a party in a generic Congressional matchup, those surveyed chose Democrats over Republicans, 43 percent to 34 — the widest measure in recent polling." from above link " eople like the Republican in the House who said he and his colleagues “have to get something out of this. And I don’t know what that even is."" www.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/opinion/collins-frankenstein-goes-to-congress.html
"The current government shutdown threatens to stall the already slow economic recovery from the Great Recession. But more is at stake here. Political philosophers from Aristotle to Locke have defined the nation-state as the highest form of political community. Locke, whose views are embedded in America’s Declaration of Independence, saw government as a result of a communal compact—a social contract—among peoples. What is happening in America is that this social contract is being voided, largely through the initiative of rightwing Republicans from the deep South and rural Midwest. America is not likely to become Afghanistan, but it could easily become Italy or Greece or even Weimar Germany." www.newrepublic.com/article/114962/shutdown-standoff-one-worst-crises-american-history
www.nytimes.com/2013/10/06/us/a-federal-budget-crisis-months-in-the-planning.html www.teapartypatriots.org/2013/09/get-your-defunding-obamacare-toolkit/
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Post by MO on Oct 7, 2013 19:04:16 GMT -5
Yes a criminal act sense they shut down the government due to a bill that passed the thru all the proper processes. You just aren't very informed about the people who are effected by this. I'm glad your not, but there are many who are and its sad that those that aren't effected, yet, don't see it/ Perhaps you're right, but I work in the private sector. I am informed enough to know effected from affected. All the members of congress were elected by all the proper processes, too. The house has passed over 20 resolutions to try and end it. The senate and the worst president ever are refusing to negotiate.
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