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Post by Patriot on Mar 3, 2006 23:02:13 GMT -5
Midcan:
It's not diversity "I want", but rather, my attempt to convey to you that the diversity YOU WANT is not to be found in the organization you've provided. The Muslim aid society you cited is not helping people unrelated to the Islamic faith, whereas, nearly all Christian aid societies along with the Red Cross provide aid to many multiple ethnographies, spanning innumerable religious and cultural divides.
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Post by midcan5 on Mar 4, 2006 20:44:58 GMT -5
Then we agree as I'm sure the Islamic groups do the same as the nations and places they serve are certainly not homogeneous. No nation is 100% any belief system. And we established the Red Cross is non sectarian so its help is outside religion - just think, maybe someday the UN, especially UNICEF, will be able to help all people regardless if they believe anything or nothing. Wouldn't it be great if religions could stick to the spiritual life of those who choose to believe and everyone else just helped cause it was the left thing to do. lol www.islamicaid.org.uk/index.htmlwww.islamic-relief.com/ |
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Post by Ian on Mar 5, 2006 10:32:57 GMT -5
We can't keep arguing with you if you insist on looking at the issue through a keyhole. I've already explained to you, as well as providing examples that you've yet to rebuke, the true aim of these organizations in the Islamic faith.
As for your statement that no nation is 100% any belief system, you're correct. However, I think we can all agree that the West Bank, with a 75% Muslim population, or Iraq, with a 97% Muslim population, are overall Muslim nations so you're argument lacks logic.
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Post by copycat42 (Libertarian) on Feb 23, 2008 3:01:48 GMT -5
I'm starting this thread as my own blogspot of sorts, nestled, as it were, in the heart of RantWeb. Any and all participants are free to join in. Please note, however, that this thread is not geared toward any particular topic. Rather it will be inclusive of a great variety of topics, indeed anything I feel like blasting to smithereens.
Today's topic: psychobabble and the psychos who babble it.
It is a known fact that the greater number of psychologists and psychiatrists you have in any given area, the higher number of "mental disorders" suddenly appear in that region. A greater need for "therapy" suddenly arises, more cases of "depression" are noted, more "sexual issues" come into the limelight, etc. In other words, the whole area becomes mentally ill. This is followed by treatment plans, insurance coverage for mental health, etc.
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ergo, psychologists and psychiatrists cause mental illness.
I completely agree. (only half kidding)
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This bullshit just disgusts me. Why didn't Thucidydes ever tell of "therapy" in his annals of Rome? Possibly because it was non-existent? Indeed.
If you want to be a strong country, you better harden your citizens. Heck, even back in the early 20th century psychiatry was a relatively new practice, few if any pioneers ever sat on a couch balling their eyes out to a shrink. But now, our culture is actually being encouraged to do this! In fact, if you don't see a therapist at some point in your life, you are now considered "abnormal" in many urban areas.
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agree again. we are short circuiting our children's coping mechanisms at the development stage with an "everybody wins" attitude, and drugs for the rowdier of the lot.
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As near as seventy years ago, Americans with personal difficulties did what the Bible instructed them to do-- seek prayer and guidance from religious authority, a trusted Elder or Deacon, perhaps a Minister. This was the era when Boy Scout leaders were not gay. Back then, the crime rates were nothing akin to the staggering crime rates of today. Back then, the heinous acts of misused sexuality were for all practical purposes non-existent. Back then, you lived and died by the Word of God and everything that was Americana.
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But today, this is what "tolerance" has brought us: higher crime rates by people who spit on tradition, a melting pot of foreign folks who don't give a damn about our national heritage, a new academic elite of psychologists and psychiatrists who've never fired an M-16 in their lives (would probably piss their pants just trying to load the magazine). These are the folks that are running this country, and running it into the ground!
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never fired an M-16, but the AK-47 is super fun.
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Turning our otherwise strong young people into "teenagers with sexually repressed issues", blah, blah, fuckin blah.
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No it's not popular to take the road less traveled. Not a single son or daughter of any US Congressman is serving in the military these days. Nary a one! And I fear for this country, and everything it stands for, because we're all so dependent on the "authority" of so called "experts" who, truth be told, are a bunch of weak minded fools running from their own personal problems. The strong ones are denied a voice! The strong ones are drowned out in the overwhelming chorus of wimps![/quote]
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frankly, we should let the liberals abort, and drug themselves into starvation. solves two problems (less unemployment, and strengthens the gene pool)
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Post by midcan5 on Feb 23, 2008 14:53:24 GMT -5
Do I have to remind everyone that FDR, probably the greatest president, was a liberal and it was his administration that fought and won the big war. Right now we have two draft dodgers in office who have started an illegal war for WMDs that didn't exist, and had no clue how to win it ,and now say it will be left for the next president. When the righties start enlisting as my generation did then they can tell us about being tough, until then they can let mommy and daddy continue to take care of them.
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Post by angrypuppy on Sept 10, 2008 13:59:48 GMT -5
midcan, I know a Community that would really be interested in hearing from You. These Guys would be real interested in your POV. I just can't figure out why You are not Already working at The State Department. www.military.com/Page/0,12170,1-OO-0,00.htm |
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Post by angrypuppy on Sept 10, 2008 14:10:20 GMT -5
Teddy Roosevelt Was a better President than FDR, He's not even in My top 10. I'd put Madison and Jefferson on the Top. FRD lied going into and all the way through WWII. I'm stunned that You'd even support Him midcan. Germany didn't attack Us. I'm just using your logic here. Did FDR's Social Programs work? Are We better off? News to me.
I think You have Liberals confused with the rest of the world when it comes to living off of Your Parents.
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Post by midcan5 on Sept 15, 2008 6:09:29 GMT -5
Teddy Roosevelt Was a better President than FDR, He's not even in My top 10. I'd put Madison and Jefferson on the Top. FRD lied going into and all the way through WWII. I'm stunned that You'd even support Him midcan. Germany didn't attack Us. I'm just using your logic here. Did FDR's Social Programs work? Are We better off? News to me. I think You have Liberals confused with the rest of the world when it comes to living off of Your Parents. Teddy is no where near the top. I would exclude the founders as they set the system up. I give them great credit for that but it is in times of turmoil that greatness shows. Lincoln, FDR and LBJ are the best in my book, all tackled hard issues and worked through them. Yes, we are better until Reagan started to destroy the unions and the working people. The golden age was from the end of WWII till the collapse of Russia for most historians. America began a collapse after that that you see with the dominance of Europe, China and India. Militarily we are still powerful but socially and as an influence and guide to the good society we falling behind. That is obvious in corporate failure, in science, education, lack of healthcare and a widening divide between have and have-nots. www.cepr.net/index.php/op-eds-columns/op-eds-columns/america-since-1980-a-right-turn-leading-to-a-dead-end/America for Dummies: A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote to further marginalize science in America by supporting creationism (religion) as science. |
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Post by angrypuppy on Sept 15, 2008 8:39:15 GMT -5
Teddy Roosevelt Was a better President than FDR, He's not even in My top 10. I'd put Madison and Jefferson on the Top. FDR lied going into and all the way through WWII. I'm stunned that You'd even support Him midcan. Germany didn't attack Us. I'm just using your logic here. Did FDR's Social Programs work? Are We better off? News to me. I think You have Liberals confused with the rest of the world when it comes to living off of Your Parents. Teddy is no where near the top. I would exclude the founders as they set the system up. I give them great credit for that but it is in times of turmoil that greatness shows. Lincoln, FDR and LBJ are the best in my book, all tackled hard issues and worked through them. Yes, we are better until Reagan started to destroy the unions and the working people. The golden age was from the end of WWII till the collapse of Russia for most historians. America began a collapse after that that you see with the dominance of Europe, China and India. Militarily we are still powerful but socially and as an influence and guide to the good society we falling behind. That is obvious in corporate failure, in science, education, lack of healthcare and a widening divide between have and have-nots. www.cepr.net/index.php/op-eds-columns/op-eds-columns/america-since-1980-a-right-turn-leading-to-a-dead-end/America for Dummies: A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote to further marginalize science in America by supporting creationism (religion) as science. You are Free to speak for Yourself, You are not Free to Speak for Me or lay impositions upon Me. I reject Your reasoning. We need Reform, We disagree on the remedy, We probably always will Midcan. Feel free to Surrender Yourself to any Sovereignty that will say to you what you need to hear, to Sacrifice Others with or without Their Knowledge, or Against Their Will, is part of the Problem, not the solution. That makes You part of the problem. Learn to speak from your own perspective if you will. Inaugural Address of Theodore Roosevelt SATURDAY, MARCH 4, 1905 My fellow-citizens, no people on earth have more cause to be thankful than ours, and this is said reverently, in no spirit of boastfulness in our own strength, but with gratitude to the Giver of Good who has blessed us with the conditions which have enabled us to achieve so large a measure of well-being and of happiness. To us as a people it has been granted to lay the foundations of our national life in a new continent. We are the heirs of the ages, and yet we have had to pay few of the penalties which in old countries are exacted by the dead hand of a bygone civilization. We have not been obliged to fight for our existence against any alien race; and yet our life has called for the vigor and effort without which the manlier and hardier virtues wither away. Under such conditions it would be our own fault if we failed; and the success which we have had in the past, the success which we confidently believe the future will bring, should cause in us no feeling of vainglory, but rather a deep and abiding realization of all which life has offered us; a full acknowledgment of the responsibility which is ours; and a fixed determination to show that under a free government a mighty people can thrive best, alike as regards the things of the body and the things of the soul. Much has been given us, and much will rightfully be expected from us. We have duties to others and duties to ourselves; and we can shirk neither. We have become a great nation, forced by the fact of its greatness into relations with the other nations of the earth, and we must behave as beseems a people with such responsibilities. Toward all other nations, large and small, our attitude must be one of cordial and sincere friendship. We must show not only in our words, but in our deeds, that we are earnestly desirous of securing their good will by acting toward them in a spirit of just and generous recognition of all their rights. But justice and generosity in a nation, as in an individual, count most when shown not by the weak but by the strong. While ever careful to refrain from wrongdoing others, we must be no less insistent that we are not wronged ourselves. We wish peace, but we wish the peace of justice, the peace of righteousness. We wish it because we think it is right and not because we are afraid. No weak nation that acts manfully and justly should ever have cause to fear us, and no strong power should ever be able to single us out as a subject for insolent aggression. Our relations with the other powers of the world are important; but still more important are our relations among ourselves. Such growth in wealth, in population, and in power as this nation has seen during the century and a quarter of its national life is inevitably accompanied by a like growth in the problems which are ever before every nation that rises to greatness. Power invariably means both responsibility and danger. Our forefathers faced certain perils which we have outgrown. We now face other perils, the very existence of which it was impossible that they should foresee. Modern life is both complex and intense, and the tremendous changes wrought by the extraordinary industrial development of the last half century are felt in every fiber of our social and political being. Never before have men tried so vast and formidable an experiment as that of administering the affairs of a continent under the forms of a Democratic republic. The conditions which have told for our marvelous material well-being, which have developed to a very high degree our energy, self-reliance, and individual initiative, have also brought the care and anxiety inseparable from the accumulation of great wealth in industrial centers. Upon the success of our experiment much depends, not only as regards our own welfare, but as regards the welfare of mankind. If we fail, the cause of free self-government throughout the world will rock to its foundations, and therefore our responsibility is heavy, to ourselves, to the world as it is to-day, and to the generations yet unborn. There is no good reason why we should fear the future, but there is every reason why we should face it seriously, neither hiding from ourselves the gravity of the problems before us nor fearing to approach these problems with the unbending, unflinching purpose to solve them aright. Yet, after all, though the problems are new, though the tasks set before us differ from the tasks set before our fathers who founded and preserved this Republic, the spirit in which these tasks must be undertaken and these problems faced, if our duty is to be well done, remains essentially unchanged. We know that self-government is difficult. We know that no people needs such high traits of character as that people which seeks to govern its affairs aright through the freely expressed will of the freemen who compose it. But we have faith that we shall not prove false to the memories of the men of the mighty past. They did their work, they left us the splendid heritage we now enjoy. We in our turn have an assured confidence that we shall be able to leave this heritage unwasted and enlarged to our children and our children's children. To do so we must show, not merely in great crises, but in the everyday affairs of life, the qualities of practical intelligence, of courage, of hardihood, and endurance, and above all the power of devotion to a lofty ideal, which made great the men who founded this Republic in the days of Washington, which made great the men who preserved this Republic in the days of Abraham Lincoln. www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/presiden/inaug/troos.htm |
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Post by USA50 on Aug 11, 2009 18:40:19 GMT -5
Did you plaigerize some of that from one of the Nazi party propoganda sheets from the thirties? Wow. Harden your citizens, comb back that steel, blond hair, raise up your weapons and blugeon the bloody hell out of the weak or anyone not prepared to don lederhosen.
If you would look up from in between your blinders long enough, you might notice that the US has the most powerful military in the history of the world - a greater force than the next Ten countries behind it. What, exactly, in that cirucumstance, the hell are you talking about?
Anyone that writes in a public forum that there were no 'gay's in the Boy Scouts at some time past has a serious fact quotient. Your ideal is probably the blood and guts, hell-bent for leather Greatest Generation saving our souls and hides, slogging through the battlefields of WW II. Well, cowboy, I hate to break your tender heart, but there were hundreds of thousands of 'gay's slogging beside them in those fields, and they did well enough to keep you from having to wear a swastiska when you type on your computer machine.
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