Where is all the evidence of the "Great Lie?"

[markwashio]

I'm into my 2nd year of law at WASU, my father is a retired army Sergent Major who specialized in Law and in 2000 I voted for Al Gore.

But if you think I'm one of these Bush hating idiots, you can rest at peace. I'm not one of these mindless liberal fools who base their insults on President Bush by what the media and a few idiots in the Democratic Party have said. The mor the Democracts continue to spew their stupidity, the more I regret voting for Bill Clinton and Al Gore. When judging this situation, you must use common sense judgement according to the law, not according to the media and selfish political views

Where is this evidence of Bush's " deception" or "fraud"? I'm talking about actual evidence that Bush the person did what all these idiot screamers say he did. I think all this business is about as stupid as all the mess over Bill Clinton's sexual antics. When you strip away all the political vengence, the media hype and just lay out the evidence thus far in accords to the law... there's nothing yet that could clearly convict this President.

[lazyeyd]

The great lie you say? Ah yes the "uranium scandal" which is the only thing the libs have to attack bush with, even though he directly quoted british intel, hence forth not lying, and everyone (the mainstream media, anyway) is off to get his head on a platter. The lefties are are just plain running out of issues to beat bush on in the next election. haha, sucks for them.

[crackhead]

www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/07/14_sotu.html

Here are some more arguments.

Now dance.

[garrett7855]

Your name reveals your agenda-crackhead, indeed.

I followed your link. What did I find? Yet another opinion piece with an agenda that walks hand in hand with the liberal media bias.

You still offer no proof-you can not prove a negative assertion. You claim there is no evidence of wmd's--how do you KNOW? Are you personally privy to intellegence information?

[Zhavric]

Try this one...

www.freepress.org

Read the articles of Bob Fitrakis. Is it leftist? Yeah. Is he speaking an empassioned tone? Sure.

Does that make it any less true? Of course not.

-Zhavric

[MO]

Zhavric- Your link does not work.

We have not found Saddam yet. Does that mean he never existed?

[garrett7855]

If you have a legitimate argument to make, please, by all means feel free to do so. Don't bother to post another link for me to follow into a brick wall. If YOU have something to say, then have the guts to say it yourself. I come here for reasonable discourse on numerous topics. When I feel the need to search the web, I'm perfectly capable of using a search engine.

[USA50]

hey, garrett maybe we can turn it back to you for you to prove that ol' george DIDN'T lie. Should be simple, the pres says something, then he shows the evidence he is right.

Can you do that? Us Liberal magicians could sure use some tutoring if you can.

Seems odd, though, that the British think ol' Tony lied (in conjunction with george). Even the conservative London Times thinks so. I can't wait till them "First Iraq, then Britain" stickers come out.

[Ogilvy]

The proof that weapons of mass destruction do not exist in Iraq has already been revealed. That is the great lie. A while ago a centrifuge was found in a rose bush, proving that there was not in fact an active weapons of mass destruction program in Iraq that threatened national security.

Why do people believe, then, that they can still be found?

The answer lies in doublethink.

Yes, the very method used by party members in George Orwell's novel 1984 is now being used to accept deliberate lies.

People know that that the centrifuge was found. They accept this.

Simultaneously they also accept that there must still be weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

Why?

Because the Bush administration says so. It is just as it is in 1984. When Big Brother says that 2+2=5, you must believe that 2+2=5. You must forget that 2+2 ever equaled anything other than 5, and then you must forget the process of forgetting. Once you have done that, complete and utter brainwashing has been accomplished.

That is what has happened. Doublethink. We have consciously and unconsciously tricked ourselves into believing what Bush says.

Orwell's prophecies are beginning to come true. They are late, but they are finally coming true to an extent.

The only difference is that some of us have managed to evade doublethink and to maintain that 2+2=4.

I would like to think that matters could not deteriorate to the level seen in 1984, but it is possible that it could happen.

The only thing we can do is to resist doublethink, to realize it when we see it, and to fight for our privacy. If they take our privacy away, then things will go all to hell.

[ItWillNeverWork]

The Government: We need to invade Iraq because Saddam has WMD's and plans to kill us with them.

The People: Prove to us that he has these weapons and that he plans to kill us.

The Government: We can't, you'll just have to take our word for it.

The People: But what if you are lying.

The Government: Prove that we are lying.

The People: We can't.

The Government: Well if you can't prove it, it can't be true.

The People: But you can't prove Saddam plans to kill us.

The Government: Can you prove that Saddam doesn't plan to kill us?

The People: Of course we can't.

The Government: Well if you can't prove it, it can't be true. Now where's my bomber jacket?

[Angmar]

I don't particularly care whether the Iraqis had their biological weapons or not, anything to undermine the pagans I say.

[Ogilvy]

Guest-Angmar said:

I don't particularly care whether the Iraqis had their biological weapons or not, anything to undermine the pagans I say.

Are you real?

[scummybear]

Whats with the proliferation of biblical quotes?? Each thread has been bombed with non-sensical Koreshesque drive-by's.

[Angmar]

"Real" in what way?

And yes, biblical quotes are often misused.