Logic other than raising minimum wage

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Raising minimum wage ONLY wipes out lower middle class because they won't get the raise.

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Rather than pushing minimum wage up to $8.00 an hour ...

Let me present a solution that can help a lot more people earn a better income rather than targeting JUST lower incomes.

I see where minimum wage could possibly be lowering the middle income people to a lower income bracket.

It does not seem to be quite fair for everyone - does it?
What happens to the person who earns $8.00 an hour now?

He/She gets lost on the bottom of the income scale (which probably took years to get out from what I call minimum wage syndrome ! ) since any minimum wage increases will not increase HIS/HER income also.

Here is a solution that helps in many way!

1) It helps employee's gain an easier way to increased wages.
2) It helps defer the initial expenses of added wages for business owns.
3) It increases the productivity of employees by creating an incentive for them to do more in their place of employment.
4) It generates more tax revenue for the government.
--- Before I attempt to explain this list - please note that this is a multiple win situation!

Many people win instead of a select handful!

You are probably thinking that this is too good to be true - however, it offers an interesting flair that is really workable!

THIS IS MY IDEA!

Allow employers to receive an actual REBATE (cashable) CHECK for the amount of $500.00 per employee to raise anyone's wage $1.00 an hour (which is increase in income of $2080.00 per year at 40 hours per week).

That $500.00 is less than 25% of the increased revenue. However, within a few years of substantial raises - it could even create a better cash flow in social security revenues for retiree's.

Here is where it can really gain momentum - let employers do this every fiscal quarter - for every employee!

You see - here in the Raleigh area of North Carolina - even McDonalds does NOT hire at minimum wage! $8.00 an hour will not help them much!

I personally employ part time - temporary help - I can not afford more - and I pay at $12.00 an hour because that is the price that allows me to gain workers who want to really put a good foot forward and do a job fairly well. Fact is that this voucher idea wouldn't even help my business.

Personally, it seems as though it may be a good time for new, fresh, ideas that can assist this economy into getting better stimulation through a positive rewards system that helps a lot more people.

As it appears; this looks as though it is a Win - Win - Win - Win and then some situation!

I, like most Americans am just try to find ways where more folks can get an extra boost in life without hurting ANYONE else!



Every Cause Creates Multiple Effects!

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Which One Is Right For The Majority?
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[Mo]

Sounds like a welfare mentality! Where in the Constitution does it say that the government should be subsidizing you to pay for your employees? And do you realize how much the govt. would SPEND to implement such a program? What makes you think they should have a hand in how much people make?

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WELFARE MENTALITY? You must be a person who knows little about business! It is not welfare! It is investing into a tax base that will slow down any tax hikes for working people. More revenue = more taxes that the government can use to fund stuff like fighting terrorism.

It also gives lazy people more reason to actually TRY to do a fair and reasonable job for a paycheck! If they won't try - leave them at a poor wage - NOT my fault if they refuse to do better!

It also allows kids with work permits to earn a fair wage to learn how to work and not be such an expense to train them to preform an functional job.

AND . . . it also lets (real) small business to afford to buy more equipment to add to their business development so they will be able to hire more people.

IN OTHER WORDS - It will stimulate the economy!

The biggest SHAME about the USA is that when communist Hungary was going on - they were (as a government) more for developing small business compared to the USA with their BIG Corporations that feed the government so many small business ventures are eliminated from competing with massively funded businessesl.

Look at Wal Mart - they kill off little business all the time - SUCH MORONIC FOOLS! If they were just a little more MONEY HUNGRY - it seems logical that they would Wholesale to small business so they were feeding their own profits better! Look how that would turn out - their $21.00 wholesale 6x9 rugs could be sold to small business at $30.00 each - this is an actual savings of $5.00 each for the small business that buys from the actual factory rep. BUT NOOOO! They want to sell these to all the fools for 89.97 each - unless a small company is selling less than them - then they drop the price to $49.93 just in that one location. (next town away - the price IS NOT rolled back! It is still 89.97 - and I personally know that from experience! BEEN THERE - DONE THAT!)

AMERICAN POLITICS

LIBERAL DEMOCRATS = Border line socialism. Wants the government to tell people how to do everything - and control any small and minimal difference in opinion.

LIBERTARIAN = MILD Anarchy - wants people to be free to enjoy their lude and immoral choices in front of the world (and innocent children).

REPUBLICANS = Similar - but opposite of Democrats. Democrats think government should control business. Republicans think business should control government - and they buy politicians like yuppies buy bottles of water!

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I am so sick of this stupidity - people are so brainwashed they can't see a good idea if it were taped to their wifes butt!

SPECIAL! sea air - NOW ONLY $14.95 plus S&H per 6-pack

[Mo]

The govt. could create more revenue from small business by doing away with the min. wage and letting free market economics work.

How about we widen the gaps in the safety net, so it dosen't look like a hammock to so many lazy people! Then they would have more incentive to do a fair and reasonable job.

I'd bet the farm that the "MORONIC FOOLS" at Walmart could buy and sell you millions of times over. They must be doing something right. In other words, if you're so smart, why aren't you rich! Sam started out as just a little guy and built a fortune without crying like a baby for govt. goodies. Why would you use a perfect example of an American small business success story to try to make a case for more govt. involvment in small business?

The only thing that is correct in your post is the topic that you have chosen to post it under, "liberal b.s."

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HUH?? How would the government create more revenue by doing away with the min. wage? That is nuts!

That would create an economical tailspin downward! The economy would crumble!
Unfortunately there are too many greedy souls that would use people so bad that the employee's would require welfare!

Twenty or thirty years ago that would have worked.

People were nicer back then - more sincere.

SURE! The "MORONIC FOOLS" at Walmart could buy and sell me millions of times over. . . whats the point?

Back when Sam Walton was running the show - there was NO Competition like what they have become - it is a totally different playing field today - there was an element of compassion that has long since been lost.

Who Cares?

So long as a buck was made!

Screw Americans!

You probably FAIL to see that this political garbage is all about deciding on what kind of crap you want stinking up your life!

As I see it ALL political parties are too full of thier own B.S. to see what their crap is doing - and NONE of them are really in this for the people - the people are there to be deceived by them.

If you can't kiss political tail - you become the sludge at the bottom that the tail kissers feed off!

If you can't understand that - you just may be another mindless - thoughtless parrot that just repeats everyone else B.S.! in other words "BRAIN WASHED" !


This is where one of my favorite sayings come to play!!

Pro 23:9 Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words.

[Mo]

The possibilities for fraud and abuse are without limit. I'm surprised FDR or LBJ didn't come up with such a scheme to increase gov. power and redistribute wealth.

Is everyone who does not agree with you "someone who knows little about business" or a "thoughtless parrot" or "brainwashed"?? You sound like a liberal!

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1/2 of your last post is JUST parroting previous comments! Is that all you can come up with?
You have not put up even a mediocre debate about this!

........... BORING!

[Mo]

You liberals just don't get it. In order for the govt. to get the money to give to you in the form of rebates for your employee raises, it would first have to take it from you in the form of taxes.

I won't go on, as you have asserted that I am a bore. Unlike most of the women you likely know, it's not my job to entertain you.

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You are so CLUELESS!

... attempting to feebly insult me without stating REAL logic is very typical of a true LIBERAL!
Can not think of anything to combat logic and reason - so you try to minimalize an issue by questioning a persons social abilities!

What a clown!

[glow=blue,1,900] just try to follow a SIMPLY concept here . . . [/glow]

• What happens if a lot of people were to actually earn over 2 grand a year more?
  
  
• What if these SAME people were actually able to earn as much as $8320.00 extra a year? What would that do for the tax revenue?
  
  
• What does an extra 2080.00 to 8320.00 a year do for someone who earns under $10.00 per hour (that is only $20,800.00 per full time year)?

Let Me Spell It Out For you in SIMPLE terms:

First - an extra 2 to 8 grand a year is more money people can use to pay bills or whatever is needed in every day life!

Next - on the lower end income - the payroll taxes taken from general employee's is around 23 to about 28 percent of their weekly income (depending on geographic location) - which will create additional TAXABLE INCOME (with any form of a raise that could be had!).

Gee! What could all of this POSSIBLY do for America?

• Increase wages to allow more people to afford big ticket items like new homes and auto's - (sales tax!)
  
  
• Encourage those who don't work very hard to try doing a better job!
  (makes more people TRY to better themselves instead of going to work JUST to put the hours in!)
  
  
• ... and creates more tax revenues!

How is that welfare? This is a great way to stimulate a lagging economy while actually letting people do better economically.

Everyone Wins!

In order to get the economy moving you need to get people to spend money!

That is what the President was trying to do with those rebate checks last year!

It just wasn't enough spending capital to get the economy rolling!

What I am proposing is a LOT more than a few hundred dollar ONE TIME infusion in to working peoples pockets to get it back on track!

You need to realize - RICH people do NOT like spending much money - that is why they are RICH - poor people on the other hand spend it as fast as they get it because they do not have everything they think they need! So - logic dictates that in order to get spending back on track - get money into the right persons hands!

The rich will even make more $$ since all of their manufacturing and tech stocks will become more of a value due to the added sales that create those stock dividends that they so hungrily want!

Rocket Science?

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your plan works in the mid term of its inception, because then the salary and compensation will balance out, but you propose on a yearly or quarterly increase, this is where your plan is flawed. a raise by a full dollar every year for millions of employees will (with a high percentage compensation wage for the employer) will within a 20 years off set all financial balance in our enonomy. many companies who cannot afford to take the iniatial losses will either go out of buisness because of employees rushing to get the raises. or will go bankrupt for trying to hold on to its employed base.

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Pay no attention to my password. My name is John Birch Thurmond, and this is what I have to say about that...

Nonsense. The Conservative doctrine requires not that the min wage be raised, but that it actually be LOWERED. This will make the middle class feel better (let um think they 'movin' on up' with the big dogs who really run everything), and it will encourage the big dogs to hire more lower level people for more hours (how 'bout 12 hrs a day? Them poor dudes will really clean up and have a happy life.)

We can then sort out resultingly depressed sections of the US (we won't point that out as we lower the wage), certify them as Third World Countries (whisper: in danger of becoming communist (no, no, they have NOT gone away...)) then send them aid that would have gone to some weirdo foreigners, thereby keeping our tax dollars here.

Whew. Being a conserv his hard brain work.