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Post by MO on Mar 2, 2004 13:33:43 GMT -5
Apologize for what? It's not my fault if your friend is a gimp. If his old lady is a feminist, he must be an emotional cripple, too. Spare me! Parents would be really screwed without employers. You can't tax and regulate the hell out of them and expect them to stay in the country. Your little isolationist dream world will never exist in the real one. If you want to complain about out sourcing you might want to start with Heinz ketchup. Most of their factories are overseas.
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Post by Ian on Mar 2, 2004 14:08:36 GMT -5
I have to say I'm an anti-free trade conservative, but that last post of MO's had me LOL.
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Post by Ian on Mar 2, 2004 14:50:36 GMT -5
It serves that old baby-killer Nazi right.
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Post by remedios on Mar 2, 2004 21:42:37 GMT -5
(edited part of personal attack) Anybody who would unapologetically mock someone with MS and impugn his manhood is taking up space that would be better occupied by a shrub.
As for free trade and the doomed economic policies of conservatives, explain to me exactly how making it easier for hundreds of thousands of ILLEGAL and vastly underpaid aliens makes it possible for Joe and Cathy McKenna to maintain a one income family of four when neither have a more than an associate's degree? And why should they have to, besides, that is, the fact that they live in Louisiana, a state which gives 20 years of property-tax free subsidies to companies which move there instead of properly funding their public schools so that people like Joe and Cathy will have a better chance of actually getting a decent education?
Can you articulate a little better exactly how jobs that are off-shored are helping anyone, even the companies offshoring them? Sure, in the short run they save money, but when demand for their products and services here goes through the floor because they've just fired the middle class, what then? Are they going to sell to the Indians, who do not make enough to maintain the profit margin they were hired to create in the first place?
Idiots, you conservatives, idiots.
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Post by MO on Mar 2, 2004 23:12:44 GMT -5
I didn't mock anyone! You inserted very personal information (on the other thread) about your lover on a public forum that didn't have anything to do with MS. The MS wasn't mentioned until after my comment. You shouldn't fall right into typical liberal victim mode because I commented on it. Maybe you should think about what you want to make public.
Liberals are the ones who fight against closing the borders.
I never claimed jobs going off shore were a help. I did insinuate that liberal policies cause it. Big difference.
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Post by remedios on Mar 3, 2004 7:44:23 GMT -5
Ah, sort of apologetic. Finally. Don't worry, I don't give a fig what you think of my man. My point was that conservatives like to run around dictating to everyone how they should live their lives without even knowing the first thing about the people and lives they assume to know what's best for.
Ah, but Bush has plans to essentially nationalize hundreds of thousands of low-wage earning criminals. In the process, he has angered a significant portion of the republican base which would like to close borders, but appeased the economic conservatives who could give two flying figs less about Joe and Cathy as long as their profits stay UP, UP. Your party hardly has a unified opinion on this. I agree that mainstream Democrats fight to keep borders open, but get this, it's because Clinton and Kerry are amonst the most economically conservative democrats who ever existed. That's right: they're in the pockets of big business just like Bush is. Add that to the fact that the Democratic party has been hijacked by super left-leaning, politically-correct idiots, and it becomes impossible to argue about limiting immigration. Much to the glee of big corporations.
Enough with the insinuation. Explain exactly how liberal policies cause this. And don't tell me it's because WJC signed NAFTA into law and he was a liberal. Fact is, it's the conservatives who want businesses to be able to go abroad where they needn't worry about pesky high environmental protections as they do here, not to mention the profit the can make by kicking Joe and his family of 5 dependents free and hiring an Indian, who may have a family of 5 dependents, but has no sense of entitlement about unreasonable things like health insurance or a reasonable work week.
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Post by MO on Mar 3, 2004 12:42:33 GMT -5
This thread is about feminism. Please don't hijack it with leftist vitriol about other topics. edited to add this link as an attempt to get back on topic. www.lewisnews.com/article.asp?ID=50751
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Post by remedios on Mar 5, 2004 19:24:00 GMT -5
This thread is about feminism. Please don't hijack it with leftist vitriol about other topics.
Huh, I didn't know that topics could be so easily compartmentalized. Perhaps it has to do with context. . .
This thread is about women staying home to raise kids, which has EVERYTHING to do with trade. If you refuse to acknowledge that, then there's no talking to you.
I guess you ran out of answers.
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Post by Ian on Mar 6, 2004 13:45:14 GMT -5
"Sit by your maaaaaannnn! And le" Opps! I got carried away.
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Post by Ted on Mar 7, 2004 16:09:33 GMT -5
Mr. Limbaugh's definition of a feminist is someone who's pro-abortion and uses the pro-choice doctrine to try to grasp power over men in society.
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Post by remedios on Mar 8, 2004 18:59:03 GMT -5
How exactly does being pro-choice allow women to "grasp" power over men?
This should be interesting.
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Post by remedios on Mar 8, 2004 19:02:25 GMT -5
Oh, and while we're at it, someone please explain to me how "standing by my man" has anything to do with defending him in a forum he's never heard of, against the pathetically childish assault of an ideologue who if he knew he wouldn't respect?
Not only do I not give a fig what any of you think of my man, neither would he, if he were so inclined to waste his time here like I am.
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Post by Ted on Mar 8, 2004 22:29:52 GMT -5
The threat of zero-procreation is enough to make any intelligent person stop and think.
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Post by remedios on Mar 9, 2004 20:30:23 GMT -5
I see you didn't answer my question about Mr. Limbaugh's ridiculous assertion.
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Post by Ted on Mar 9, 2004 23:14:20 GMT -5
Beg pardon, I did indeed. Grasping power over men is accomplished with the threat of abortion. Let's say I'm recently married and my wife is pregnant. She wants a Ferrari Stralade. At the moment I'm entirely unable to afford a Stralade. She can legally go have my future son or daughter slaughtered if I don't buy her one. Maybe she threatens to do so. What the hell do I do?
See the problem?
This situation is exaggerated, but such things happen quite often.
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