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Post by ItWillNeverWork on Feb 1, 2004 11:49:16 GMT -5
Figure it out Einstein
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Post by Angmar on Feb 1, 2004 20:02:45 GMT -5
Lol. I guess I'll have to try.
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Post by thought on Feb 9, 2004 20:15:15 GMT -5
where are the conservative arts colleges? LOL. by the way, i am in the ivy system (undergrad cornell, graduate upenn) and my professors have always done the best to show all sides, and they are doing great- i can think for myself just fine...
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Post by Ted on Feb 9, 2004 22:22:58 GMT -5
where are the conservative arts colleges? LOL. by the way, i am in the ivy system (undergrad cornell, graduate upenn) and my professors have always done the best to show all sides, and they are doing great- i can think for myself just fine... I don't really think "liberal arts" portains to politics in this sense. After all, such universities were originally founded exclusively by conservatives. |
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Post by MO on Feb 10, 2004 0:10:54 GMT -5
It doesn't matter how they started. They are to the left of Lenin, now.
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Post by ItWillNeverWork on Feb 10, 2004 9:17:50 GMT -5
"It doesn't matter how they started. They are to the left of Lenin, now."
Thats almost as silly as saying George Bush is to the right of Hitler.
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Post by MO on Feb 10, 2004 9:44:38 GMT -5
Can you add anything to this topic?  Instead of just asserting that something is "silly" why don't you explain why you believe it to be silly. |
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Post by ItWillNeverWork on Feb 10, 2004 10:22:06 GMT -5
"Can you add anything to this topic?
Instead of just asserting that something is "silly" why don't you explain why you believe it to be silly."
Why is it that obvious things have to be spelt out?
Vladimir Ilyich Lenin was an authoritarian communist who, in just six years of rules, destroyed an entire countries opportunity to be free for the next sixty.
In the words of Time Magazine:
"it was Lenin who built the first camps; Lenin who set off artificial famine as a political weapon; Lenin who disbanded the last vestige of democratic government, the Constituent Assembly, and devised the Communist Party as the apex of a totalitarian structure; Lenin who first waged war on the intelligentsia and on religious believers, wiping out any traces of civil liberty and a free press."
And then you turn round and ask me why it is silly to compare your universities to him? It is a good thing that noone who suffered under Lenin is around to see such an offensive, not to mention ridiculous, comment.
You're right, 'silly' was the wrong phrase to use. 'Unbelievably stupid' seems more appropriate.
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Post by Walter on Feb 10, 2004 11:55:52 GMT -5
I'm with IWNW on this one.
"Left of Lenin" is hard to contemplate...kinda like "what's on the other side of the edge of the universe?"
A number of Liberals are clearly "far left" but that may be simply to appeal to a supposed constituency.
A real, live LEFTY who approaches Lenin is Ramsey Clark, Carter's Attorney General, who openly supports a left wing Socialist and neo-Communist agenda on his website.
Apart from Kerry's current support for the V.V.A.W. (now a socialist organization), and Kocinich's rantings, neither of which examples is particularly probative, I would reserve the Lenin comparison for a future tyrant who is unlikely to surface.
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Post by MO on Feb 10, 2004 12:12:49 GMT -5
ROFLOL This thread is proof that there are insufferable males in the world who will argue about anything. What ever! I'll throw out another tired cliché for you to pick apart on technicalities, k? Two peas in a pod. Point is, colleges are liberal. |
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Post by thought on Feb 10, 2004 12:16:22 GMT -5
LOL- left of Lenin (sounds like a good alliteration though), thats a good one. Ted- I was kidding about the conservative arts colleges...I hope you didn't take me seriously, hehe.
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Post by thought on Feb 10, 2004 12:19:20 GMT -5
Question- Mo, did you go to a conservative college?
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Post by ItWillNeverWork on Feb 10, 2004 13:00:49 GMT -5
"ROFLOL
This thread is proof that there are insufferable males in the world who will argue about anything. What ever! I'll throw out another tired cliché for you to pick apart on technicalities, k? Two peas in a pod.
Point is, colleges are liberal. "
So 'Liberal' = 'Communist'? And the only difference is a technicality? Your perception of the world is skewed beyond belief, do you think a former prisoner in a gulag would see the two as being the same? The only explanation I can think of is that you are for some reason insulated from reality. Time to wake up MO.
P.S what the hell does 'insufferable males' mean?
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Post by MO on Feb 10, 2004 13:22:13 GMT -5
Point is, hun, it's not an original. It's a cliché, an expression, a figure of speech.
Maybe you can hunt down its origins and find the first person to ever coin the phrase and give them a good tongue lashing, after you look up the words "insufferable" and "male."
I do see complicity in liberals and communists.
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Post by ItWillNeverWork on Feb 10, 2004 13:47:35 GMT -5
Point is darling, It doesn't matter where the phrase came from, it's still ignorant and offensive. I've never heard the phrase before thats true, and unsurprising since I am not from your part of the world. But I think it sums up perfectly the 'us versus them' culture that your politicians use to control you.
Seperate the world into opposite extremes of 'good and evil' and use fear of peoples differences to gain power. It's an age old tactic and unfortunatly you seem to have fallen for it.
Complicity? If you see complicity between liberals and communists then that further backs up my point about you being completley stuck in your own world.
Social Democracy was born out of Europe because of a need to avoid the mistakes of the past, that led to fascism, so that in the future other extremes would not take hold.
'Liberalism' as you call it is the complete antitheses to communism.
"after you look up the words "insufferable" and "male.""
I know what the words mean. As you are perfectly aware I was enquiring as to what you implied by them.
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