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Post by jailkerry on Sept 5, 2004 8:33:03 GMT -5
Can anyone give me a good reason John Kerry should not be incarcerated for his treasonous acts in holding secret 1971 meeting with North Vietnam's communist leaders in Paris?
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Post by UncleVinny on Sept 5, 2004 9:59:01 GMT -5
Funny you should mention treason . . .
Today's paper shows a report fron senator Bob Graham (FL) - how bush squashed an FBI investigation into reports of two Saudi agents helping the hijackers. Bush deleted the paragraphs detailing those connections from the 9/11 report. Bush family has very close ties to the Saudis, who have pumped billions of dollars into the bush oil empire. Smoke on that for a while.
Graham also reports general Tommy Franks told him that troops, and the search for Bin Ladin, were redeployed to Iraq in preparation for public announcements that shrub was going to invade there. This compromised the search for OBL.
I hope when Kerry is elected that they bring up treason charges agains Shrub!
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Post by jailkerry on Sept 5, 2004 10:01:32 GMT -5
Good try UV...but answer MY question please!
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Post by jailkerry on Sept 5, 2004 10:02:45 GMT -5
Also which paper are you quoting from and remind me again of Mr. Grahm's political affiliation?  |
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Post by UncleVinny on Sept 5, 2004 10:35:29 GMT -5
I'm in Sacramento. Sacramento Bee, but it's a Knight-Ridder report.
Kerry is not in jail because to do so would expose bush for the intolerant dictator that he is. Jeez, the nation is divided right down the middle. Bush could easily get re-elected if he moved just ONE INCH to the left to accomodate some of his more vocal critics, but like the moron that he is, "We'll stay the course." MOST Repulicans are NOT in favor of blocking stem cell research, of tax cuts for those making ove $200,000, of hamstringing environmental controls, of a constitutional amendment against gays, yet Bush insists on staying the stupid course. He's a hard-headed cowboy, and is brihging this nation to the brink of disaster.
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Post by jailkerry on Sept 5, 2004 11:11:02 GMT -5
I'm in Sacramento. Sacramento Bee, but it's a Knight-Ridder report. Kerry is not in jail because to do so would expose bush for the intolerant dictator that he is. Jeez, the nation is divided right down the middle. Bush could easily get re-elected if he moved just ONE INCH to the left to accomodate some of his more vocal critics, but like the moron that he is, "We'll stay the course." MOST Repulicans are NOT in favor of blocking stem cell research, of tax cuts for those making ove $200,000, of hamstringing environmental controls, of a constitutional amendment against gays, yet Bush insists on staying the stupid course. He's a hard-headed cowboy, and is brihging this nation to the brink of disaster. To pick but one of your assertations....President Bush's Federal Marriage Ammendment is not anti-gay. It simply seeks to reaffirm the traditional definition of marriage to protect it from those in the judicial branch who consistently cannot stay within thier constitutionally granted powers to INTERPRET the law. I would further challenge your assumption that "most" republicans do not support President Bush on these issues. Most of them I know do! And I fail to see how calling Kerry to task and making him accept responsibility for his own action of 30 years ago translates int making President Bush an intollerant dictator. Can you clarify that one? |
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Post by jailkerry on Sept 5, 2004 11:13:57 GMT -5
I'm in Sacramento. Sacramento Bee, but it's a Knight-Ridder report. Kerry is not in jail because to do so would expose bush for the intolerant dictator that he is. Jeez, the nation is divided right down the middle. Bush could easily get re-elected if he moved just ONE INCH to the left to accomodate some of his more vocal critics, but like the moron that he is, "We'll stay the course." MOST Repulicans are NOT in favor of blocking stem cell research, of tax cuts for those making ove $200,000, of hamstringing environmental controls, of a constitutional amendment against gays, yet Bush insists on staying the stupid course. He's a hard-headed cowboy, and is brihging this nation to the brink of disaster. Also, Unlike your party's heroes, president Bush isn't concerned with changing his beliefs to get elected. He is the type of leader who actually has his own beliefs and sticks to them, no matter the political fallout. I think I'd prefer that type of leadership over some one who determines his beliefs by the polling data available at the moment. |
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Post by UncleVinny on Sept 5, 2004 11:28:38 GMT -5
"To pick but one of your assertations....President Bush's Federal Marriage Ammendment is not anti-gay. "
No, that's naive to believe that. Even the Log Cabin Republicans call him on that one.
"I would further challenge your assumption that "most" republicans do not support President Bush on these issues. Most of them I know do!"
I cannot prove it. Most Reps I know oppose those things. If you DO support those things, I think you're deluding yourself that it's in your own interest - that is unless you too are making over 200K. They say experience is the best teacher. Maybe, God forbid, you have to have someone in your family get a spinal cord injury before you will support stem cell research, or have one of your family members come out as gay.
"And I fail to see how calling Kerry to task and making him accept responsibility for his own action of 30 years ago translates int making President Bush an intollerant dictator. Can you clarify that one?"
Jeez, 30 YEARS ago - get real. They PROVED John O'Neill was abig liar. Old news.
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Post by jailkerry on Sept 5, 2004 14:32:29 GMT -5
It simply seeks to reaffirm the traditional definition of marriage to protect it from those in the judicial branch who consistently cannot stay within thier constitutionally granted powers to INTERPRET the law.
Answer to this?
"No, that's naive to believe that. Even the Log Cabin Republicans call him on that one. "
The Log cabin republicans are but a small minority who happen to be gay. So it is understandable that they would call him on this. Their political affiliation doesn't change the fact that being gay is not the norm.
"I would further challenge your assumption that "most" republicans do not support President Bush on these issues. Most of them I know do!"
I cannot prove it. Most Reps I know oppose those things. If you DO support those things, I think you're deluding yourself that it's in your own interest - that is unless you too are making over 200K. They say experience is the best teacher. Maybe, God forbid, you have to have someone in your family get a spinal cord injury before you will support stem cell research, or have one of your family members come out as gay.
Okay, no i do not make over 200K. But I still have seen more money coming home in my paycheck every two weeks (as have each and every person I've questioned in my company) and last year recieved the largest refund ever. I have had people in my family die from cancer, heart disease and any number of other things that probably might have been aided by stem cell research, but that doesn't mean its the right thing to do.
Same with gay marriage, I do have family members who are gay. I love them but they know in no uncertain terms that I beleive their lifestyle to be immoral and just plain wrong. Again, just because some one gets their feelings hurt by being called wrong doesn't make their stand any less wrong. A sin is a sin. Right is right and wrong is wrong. Failure to call sin sin is just that...failure.
"And I fail to see how calling Kerry to task and making him accept responsibility for his own action of 30 years ago translates int making President Bush an intollerant dictator. Can you clarify that one?"
Jeez, 30 YEARS ago - get real. They PROVED John O'Neill was abig liar. Old news.
Again you failed to adress the substance of the comment. I actually wasn't talking about whether or not Kerrry won his medals honestly (although I personally don't think he did). I was referring to Mr. kerry's secret trips(s) to paris to talk to the North Vietnamese Communist party leaders while American troops were fighting in Vietnam.
And you still failed to relate how prosecuting Kerry for this treasonous act makes President Bush the "intolerant dictator that he is"?
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Post by BOLO on Sept 5, 2004 21:10:55 GMT -5
Actually (Vinny) just glossed over the whole thing. Diverted from the original, and missed the entire point. He must work in the Carvelle Spin Center. Kerry is not in jail simply because he had a Rabbi. Ted Kennedy. Ted, and his fellow drunks, er Senators in the Nob Hill, Blue Blood league protect their own. We can not do it now that would be a political disaster. So then why does Vinny lie. Is it because he himself is a world class liar? Why is he a one source individual. Is it because that source re-enforces his lies? The Log Cabin Repubs did not call President Bush on it. most said they support it as they recognize it is a Majority view. Others said he still recognizes Civil Union. Most are satisfied. However jailkerry is right. They are a minority. UV is right about one thing. Many Conservatives (Not talking about Republicans, but they are included) are not happy with his old Domestic Stance, and they are not jumping for joy over his new one. However. I will take an honest man over a Lying, conniving, unstable, Traitorous, Enemy supporting, Medal throwing SOB from Massachusetts >:(  #nosmileys |
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Post by jailkerry on Sept 7, 2004 11:50:02 GMT -5
True about the political disaster for us. I guess we have to content ourselves with spreading the truth about him and his treasonous actions so that Americans will know the TRUTH about the man who longs to be our CIC!  |
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Post by bibster on Sept 9, 2004 13:02:44 GMT -5
UV, like all Dems gloss over any question posed to them. That's why they like Flipper, because he never answers a question.
I like all other WORKING american's who don't earn 200k also received nice refunds last year and were the highest we received. So Mr. Bush's tax cuts were not only for the wealthy.
John Kerry would like to give tax cuts/refunds to non working people. Imagine that, giving tax cuts to non working people.
UV, you did not answer the question and I don't believe you or any other Lib is capable of answering tough qquestions posed to you about your King KErry.
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Post by Hale on Oct 7, 2004 15:38:07 GMT -5
bibster-"That's why they like Flipper, because he never answers a question."
Did you watch the political debate? Bush never answered any of the questions, all he talked about was "Flipper" flipping. Kerry at least answered the questions.
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Post by UncleVinny on Oct 16, 2004 13:56:06 GMT -5
To answer the original question . . .
Because he's a good, decent man, and these phony charges were trumped up by people filled with hatred and a gross disregard for the facts.
Besides, it was DECADES ago.
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Post by Walter on Oct 17, 2004 17:16:25 GMT -5
To answer the original question . . . Because he's a good, decent man, and these phony charges were trumped up by people filled with hatred and a gross disregard for the facts. Besides, it was DECADES ago. Phony? How so? What is untrue? Be specific. |
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