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Post by pukaman on Jun 15, 2004 17:43:55 GMT -5
My body and my Life come Not from the laws of Man. They are a Blessing from My Creator I was bestowed with God-Given Inalieanable Rights as recognized by the Founders of Democracy in the Dec. of Independence. The Powers of Gov't, are Limited by the U.S. Constitution. Check out the Bill of Rights.... The Creator bestowed upon me Free Will and Choice. I am not about to tell you what to do with your body. That is your Right. We may owe Society our Personal Responsability for our OWN Actions..
If you don't belive in Euthanasia, DON'T KILL YOURSELF. it's really that simple. Perhaps you'll get the oppurtunity to reconsider when you are lying in bed racked with cancer and pain. Have you personally looked into the eyes of such a person ? Have they begged you to help them when you know there is no help ? Reality is, we're all gonna die. Must I be forced to endure it in agony and degradation for the profits of a pharama/medical industry ? I don't think so. I am addressing only the question of personal choice over one's own body. NOT, forcing anything in/on anyone against their will. And for those of you "Pro-Lifers"against Abortion, I can only ask one Question. HOW MANY BABIES HAVE YOU ADOPTED ? AND HAOW MANY BABIES HAVE YOU ALLOWED TO BE BOMBED IN YOUR NAME ?
lets get real folks enjoy your day and your Lives... Pukaman
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Post by Essences on Sept 10, 2004 14:39:48 GMT -5
oh my. .what do I think of this. .well. .for the most part I feel that in the event that someone wishes to end their life that medicines and technology should NOT be used to force them to continue it, but thats not really the issue. .it just comes to mind because I have a cousin who is the same age as me (19) who was born more or less dead, but because of laws in Louisianna I think, she has been kept 'alive' with the use of very expensive machines because its illegal to pull the plug on her for some reason *I'm sorry I don't know what is wrong with her that she is like that maybe I'll try and find out later* It's painful for the parents to know she's still being kept there and no one visits her anymore but her grandmother, who may have died by now I don't know. .
More to the point however. .should drs be allowed to put terminally ill and pained people out of their misery. .this is a dangerous subject for me to approach because a few summers ago when my mother had cancer she was in a lot of pain and sometimes she wished she were dead. .I don't think she was in her right mind at the time because she was in so much pain and so lonely because even tho we visited her for a few hours ever day thats still not a lot of interaction espcially when she sometime slept through our visits. She had sank into a depression from being in the hospital for more than a month. .I don't believe she exactly applied to the issue because she could and did get better and is relatively fine now. .but it does give me a little insight as to how those related to terminally ill individuals who want death feel. On the other hand, recently my grandfather died and the hospital did all they could to save him, but when I saw him I knew he was in a lot of pain and I wanted him to stop suffering so I told him that if he needed to, it was okay to let go *he wasn't really concious of my presense in the way science would require for it to be concious but I know he heard me and the rest of my family anyways* So I can understand it from that angle a little too. .I can not however understand it from the angle of the person who is hurting, which is perhaps the most important. I think tho. .if someone is always always hurting and there is no way to help them. .they should be allowed to rest. .and in rare cases when they are incapable of bringing that rest to themselves there should be allowences for someone to aid them with it. . I don't know if that should be a dr or loved one tho. .I guess it all depends. .I don't think I really chose a side but I didn't say no to it completely so I guess I am for it. .
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Post by Cheneysmyhero on Nov 10, 2004 18:45:44 GMT -5
Yay or nay? Personally I'm on the yay side. Me too, I say kill the old bastards!
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Post by Malebolgia on Nov 10, 2004 20:32:17 GMT -5
oh my. .what do I think of this. .well. .for the most part I feel that in the event that someone wishes to end their life that medicines and technology should NOT be used to force them to continue it, but thats not really the issue. .it just comes to mind because I have a cousin who is the same age as me (19) who was born more or less dead, but because of laws in Louisianna I think, she has been kept 'alive' with the use of very expensive machines because its illegal to pull the plug on her for some reason *I'm sorry I don't know what is wrong with her that she is like that maybe I'll try and find out later* It's painful for the parents to know she's still being kept there and no one visits her anymore but her grandmother, who may have died by now I don't know. . More to the point however. .should drs be allowed to put terminally ill and pained people out of their misery. .this is a dangerous subject for me to approach because a few summers ago when my mother had cancer she was in a lot of pain and sometimes she wished she were dead. .I don't think she was in her right mind at the time because she was in so much pain and so lonely because even tho we visited her for a few hours ever day thats still not a lot of interaction espcially when she sometime slept through our visits. She had sank into a depression from being in the hospital for more than a month. .I don't believe she exactly applied to the issue because she could and did get better and is relatively fine now. .but it does give me a little insight as to how those related to terminally ill individuals who want death feel. On the other hand, recently my grandfather died and the hospital did all they could to save him, but when I saw him I knew he was in a lot of pain and I wanted him to stop suffering so I told him that if he needed to, it was okay to let go *he wasn't really concious of my presense in the way science would require for it to be concious but I know he heard me and the rest of my family anyways* So I can understand it from that angle a little too. .I can not however understand it from the angle of the person who is hurting, which is perhaps the most important. I think tho. .if someone is always always hurting and there is no way to help them. .they should be allowed to rest. .and in rare cases when they are incapable of bringing that rest to themselves there should be allowences for someone to aid them with it. . I don't know if that should be a dr or loved one tho. .I guess it all depends. .I don't think I really chose a side but I didn't say no to it completely so I guess I am for it. . ESSENCES- Is that name Emeril related. Bam. Kick it Up a Notch.
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Post by ProChildren on Nov 11, 2004 10:03:16 GMT -5
if a hucklebuck wants to go then you shouldn't stop them
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Post by shell on Mar 17, 2005 4:12:42 GMT -5
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Post by Patriot on Mar 18, 2005 7:13:25 GMT -5
Speaking of Youth In Asia, is anyone aware of the population trend as pertains to age, in the Orient these days?
Recently there was a news story in the Washington Post about the unbelievable ages Japanese men are reaching. Most of the WWII generation over there, aside from the Kamakazi pilots, are still alive. Many of the elderly are very physically active, including one individual who was over 90 years old and who recently climbed one of the world's major mountains.
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A Non Ymous
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Life is too short to spend it as someone's slave!
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Post by A Non Ymous on Apr 3, 2005 13:06:57 GMT -5
Imediatly this sentence stands out. Why are so many of you right wingers convinced that everyone who is disagrees with you is involved in some sort of grand conspiracy? Obviously people would have the right to choose if they wanted death or not. And their death would be supervised by at least one other doctor, and assessed by a psychiastrist to make sure they were of sound mind. Ah so its a God thing. Just because Christians think that its immorral, does not mean you have right to prevent a large minority of non-christians from having the right to end their own misery if they choose. Well if they didnt agree then they would not be killed!!! Obviously! Its not compulsory! Yes. Every single binary opposition has been reversed in the past 10 years... I blame the MTV generation... Way to alienate 50% of the population - that should be "he/she". Well then Dr. Glanville Williams is obviously a complete nutcase. How dare the author of this "article" link this nazi to people who beleive that suffering should be ended if they want it to be ended. How in God's name does this have anything to do with euthanasia?? I'm not supporting killing anyone off! Thats absurd! So I assume you, like me, are against the the death penalty then? What if they say "I have a terminal illness and I would like to be put of my misery in a dignified way because I am in a lot of pain?" Shouldn't this be allowed? THIS GUY IS A DOCTOR!!!! Somebody this disgustingly ill informed about the simple issue of euthanasia should be robbed of his practise. I hope his ability to look after people is better than his arguing skills. That article was a joke. Ah so its a God thing. Just because Christians think that its immorral, does not mean you have right to prevent a large minority of non-christians from having the right to end their own misery if they choose.
A lot of us Jews also believe it is immoral and a sin. But there is a difference between government killing it's own and someone committing suicide. Germany started killing her unwanteds in 1920 to save money for the state. I see a correllation between the killing of Terri Schindler and the euthenasia movement in Weimar Germany. We've just witnessed the state sponsered murder of a "Usless Eater"! Those who support this murder should consider the possibility that you may be among the "group" that will later be targeted for execution.
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Post by cthall on May 31, 2005 16:36:21 GMT -5
Please explain to me dying in a "dignified way" Lethal injection, like death row inmates? Hanging, like in judge Roy Beans court? Maybe a firing squad, like in the French foriegn legion.
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Post by midcan5 on Feb 4, 2007 11:51:55 GMT -5
Euthanasia happens all the time, a living will is a legal example, if we are to honor a person's right to life then we should honor their right to die as they wish. The argument that somehow it will get out of control is absurd, it must be based on an individual's right and not society's.
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Post by USA50 on Aug 12, 2009 16:54:45 GMT -5
There is no evidence that anyone wants to kill old people. And no one on the left ‘wants’ to ‘kill’ babies, they just want individual women to have the right to control unviable internal functions of their own bodies. If abortion was killing, anyone having one or doing one would be prosecuted in an instant. Don’t remember any Conservative administrations doing such prosecutions, do you?
And terrorists? Where is it, Ms MO, that lefties want to save terrorists? Do we want our government to execute the letter of the law, both domestic and international, and sort out just who among a group of prisoners is a terrorist and not, and the then set their punishment? Yeah, that’s it. Do we demand that our government and military follow the letter of the Geneva Convention, which we are a signatory on, and which we have supported, many times to protect our own soldiers, for half a century. Yeah, that’s it.
Do we want to protect the terrorists who walk our street with guns and terrorize town hall meetings? Pretty much yes, because we believe in the rule of law – for you and for us.
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