Ironside
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Post by Ironside on Oct 13, 2003 7:57:28 GMT -5
lordjulius7- Don't you know! President Bush had a misdemeanor- DUI decades ago, and since he didn't mention it in his campaign speeches, he "lied about it!" It doesn't matter what the National Guard has said about his service record. It doesn't matter that there is no supporting EVIDENCE for any of these wild claims. It's true because it said so on bushisabadperson.net and repubsarescum.org. It must be true because it said so on the internet!   It's not about what he didn't say in his campaign speeches. It's that he had LIED about it on applications he's filled out when asked, "Have you ever been arrested" and/or "Have you ever been convicted of a crime", though I am not confirming anything here because I am not so sure as to all the facts. But that is where the lying on the DUI came from. Here's something that may interest you about his service in the military.  HIS RECORD========================================  HE'S MISSING========================================  HIS OBLIGATION========================================  ========================================  ========================================  HIS SUSPENSION======================================== AND HIS... PHOTO OP!The NERVE of the man! ======================================== |
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Post by Stonewall on Oct 13, 2003 10:47:16 GMT -5
Okay, first of all, what's up with everyone calling our President "Bush Junior"? He's not a junior! Secondly, he didn't lie about the WMD. I mean, that wasn't hairspray that he used on the Kurds, was it? No? Okay, then I guess they had some WMD. Problem solved, next question.
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Post by Walter on Oct 13, 2003 13:05:01 GMT -5
Question.
Who won the 1991 war?
Who violated the peace treaty 17 times and ignored all of the UN resolutions?
Sounds like the topic should be MADDAS LIED, rather than BUSH LIED, don't you think?
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Post by MO on Oct 13, 2003 14:50:08 GMT -5
A DUI is a misdemeanor traffic offense in most places, and it was a misdemeanor all over the country at the time of the Bush incident. It was one step up from a speeding ticket. I don't know many people who would claim to have been convicted of a crime on applications and such because of a DUI. And I don't know many people his age who have never been guilty of it whether they have ever been caught or not. The crap you posted is not even legible enough to read, and more than likely, irrelevant. There is nothing unusual about George Bush's military record. www.ngaus.org/ngmagazine/main101.aspThe real nerve was shown by the communist sympathizing draft dodger who sent people to die in wars. Typical liberals! Bash Bush and defend an evil dictator like Saddam. |
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Ironside
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Post by Ironside on Oct 14, 2003 6:05:28 GMT -5
Mo…A DUI is a misdemeanor traffic offense in most places, and it was a misdemeanor all over the country at the time of the Bush incident. It was one step up from a speeding ticket. I don't know many people who would claim to have been convicted of a crime on applications and such because of a DUI. And I don't know many people his age who have never been guilty of it whether they have ever been caught or not. DUI is a CRIME everywhere in America. You don’t drive away with a ticket. You get Arrested, booked and can bond out. To say it is “one step up from a speeding ticket”, is being biased and blind. Reckless driving might be considered “one step up from a speeding ticket.” Dui? I think NOT!The crap you posted is not even legible enough to read, and more than likely, irrelevant. I admit, it is hard to read. However, it is what it is. The hardest parts to read are irrelevant locations and names. If need be, I can point out and spell out the highlights of these papers. I can read most of it fine. Then again, I guess if I didn’t want the truth, it would become MUCH harder to comprehend.There is nothing unusual about George Bush's military record. www.ngaus.org/ngmagazine/main101.aspThe real nerve was shown by the communist sympathizing draft dodger who sent people to die in wars. It’s always good to try comparing Bush’s military record with that of Clinton. The difference being, Clinton openly opposed the Vietnam war. George Bush handled it like a coward. Hiding in Texas in the National Guard and couldn’t even handle completing that duty. The national guard of the today is no longer a place to avoid war as it was in the 70’s. Bush isn’t the only guilty one of this. There were many Democrats that pulled the same stunt. Typical liberals! Bash Bush and defend an evil dictator like Saddam. Nice twist, accusing us defending Saddam Hussein. You forget unpatriotic, un-American and anti-Government. The fact is, it’s great to see Saddam Hussein out of power, BUT not at the costs we are paying. $90 billion dollars and an American life a day. To use the we “defend an evil dictator like Saddam” is purely IGNORANT! I find that offensive also, but that’s the card the right has been trying to play ever since the war in Iraq started!
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Post by Walter on Oct 14, 2003 7:54:17 GMT -5
Ironsides, your selective discussion defines you.
DUI has become a much more serious crime lately, not at the time. MO made that clear.
Bill Clinton rallied against the US military after he skipped the country.
Bill Clinton was either telling the truth in 1998 when he announced his attack on Maddas and told us that he did so because of the "IMMINENT THREAT" from his WMD...or he was lying.
Had Clinton been successful in taking out Maddas, what, exactly, was his end game? How would he have addressed the resultant loss of life and civil chaos?
You BB (Bush Bashers) will never accept a reasoned argument about this so why not start thinking about facts, not shot taking?
Iraq is what it is because GHWB failed to complete the job in 1991, because Clinton failed to complete the job in 1998, and because Maddas was belligirent beyond all reason in 2002. The UN passes 14 resolutions, the last being 1441, and says come forward or suffer the consequences. Then wimped out.
Perhaps you have better ideas on how this should have been handled?
BTW, The headline on this thread should have been, CLINTON LIED because he really started us on this track, didn't he? And do you remember why?
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Ironside
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Post by Ironside on Oct 14, 2003 14:13:49 GMT -5
DUI has become a much more serious crime lately, not at the time. MO made that clear.It sounds like you’re trying to say it wasn’t so bad to be drunk driver in the 70’s, but today it is. LOL It’s a crime now and it was a crime in the 70's. I have never known anybody not to get “arrested” when being charged with a DUI. Not even George Bush! The question he was asked was,"have you ever been arrested?" He answered,"no."  HE LIED!
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Post by guestvito on Nov 13, 2003 0:55:48 GMT -5
Ironside is right on the money here. Like the Republicans taught us in the Clinton era: sex is sex, bj is bj, intern is intern, is is is, dui is dui, arrest is arrest, crime is crime. lie is lie.
Bush lied.
But we all know this is the smallest, least consequential of Bush's lies don't we?
Walter asks the question:
I don't know if Ironside does, but I do: continue the inspections, strenghten them if necessary, keep up the pressure until Saddam capitulates, allows unlimited inspections or until his intransigence is so flagrant that everybody in the UN gets behind the effort to whack him.
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Post by vito on Nov 13, 2003 1:02:53 GMT -5
btw, the poll at the beginning of this thread is bogus. One of the options should be "never trusted him in the first place".
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