Top 10 Lies told by Liberals

[Patriot]

I want to pull this post from Bolo:

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Midcan and Uncle Vinny should be lined up against the wall and shot. On the grounds they provide no use to the system or humanity. Ergo they would not be missed. As they are all liars and miscreants with no redeeming values whatsoever, their demise would be a positive thing. It would increase oxygen availablilty, stop common sense erosion, provide for the common defense of insensible BS that they offer. This should take place as soon as possible since they are indeed an offense to nature and nature may retaliate. It could be costly for the rest of us. Suicide would be a considered offer. Of course there is the problem to be factored in that all of them together could not figure out which end of the gun to load and which end the bullet comes out of. Just line em up and shoot them. ;D

These colors never run. Except, they run the world.
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[Ian]

And to that let me add:

"How fortunate for leaders that men do not think. "

[midcan5]

Ian,

Good points but all kinds of people, many recent immigrants contributed to that image you build. I agree we are a great nation because of our liberal immigration policies, our freedoms, and our openness to ideas. Take for instance the builders of the rails? Or the developers of so much of our science.

There are a few reasons I consider Indians the only native Americans. They developed their culture here, they occupied and built the necessary social, economic, and cultural foundations of a society. The rest of us brought with us the baggage of our originating countries and the beliefs and culture of that place. Europe - the enlightenment - was the model for our society. Makes it more amazing that our founding mothers and fathers built a document and government which keeps it all (us) together.

Students are students, that one is classified as a conservative student is bizarre to me. Surely anyone who has attended school finds few teachers or professors they completely agree with. Learning should be active and not a passive acceptance of the teachers thoughts. Of course in a classroom one needs to prove they understand the subject. I am not denigrating conservative attitudes towards education I am saying Americans overall do not feel education is important, it is one of the myths of our culture that education doesn't matter, but that is another discussion.

But there is another side to this that you sorta touch on. The religious would obviously want an education stepped in their values and ideas. That may well have been the start of the schools you mention. The motivation was obvious, inculcate the youth. What these schools became is surely different. Why do think the religious do not want an open education? True education is a open education not indoctrination.



Patriot, you have to recognize that if it wasn't for liberals you would still be in a cave gazing out at the world wondering how and when you would get your next meal. That is if you were able to walk upright.

[Patriot]

Midcan writes:


^{Patriot, you have to recognize that if it wasn't for liberals you would still be in a cave gazing out at the world wondering how and when you would get your next meal. That is if you were able to walk upright.}


That was so plain stupid I had to read it twice before realizing I was supposed to laugh.

Rub your two IQ points together and see if you can make a few sparks, please. And stay out of the comedy business unless you want to go bankrupt.

[TNRighty]

If all Americans are immigrant stock, are all people Mesopotamian stock? You seem so adamant that all people are the product of their

[Patriot]

We interrupt this broadcast for hymnsinging.

Midcan, please join the rest of us in a resounding chorus of "Shall the Circle Be Unbroken".

[TNRighty]

Whoops, I hit the wrong button. That last post of mine is unfinished in case you didn't notice.

Anyways, as I was saying...

If all Americans are immigrant stock, are all people Mesopotamian stock? You seem so adamant that all people are the product of their ancestors, yet there comes a time when you are who you are and you are where you are regardless of who your ancestors were or where they came from. I like to believe that you blossom where you're planted, and if you were planted on American soil then you grow as an American, period.

As I've said previously, if you were born in America, then you are by definition a native American. If you need any proof of that, then look up the word "native", and tell me what it says.

And as for the definition of "American", unlike any other country in the world, if you come here and pledge your allegiance to this nation, then you are an American also. No other country offers such a simple prerequisite for citizenship than America does.

[groucho]

A few points I'd like to add:

"Native" American is a misnomer - anyone born here is "native" by definition. Better to think "origin" - name one ethnic strand of the human race that ORIGINATED in America. Pretty hard, no? That's because humans ORIGINATED in Europe, Asia, Africa and Mesopotamia; they emigrated to the far corners, thus giving the world it's population and "diversity" (another misnomer - line up a "pure" Chinese, a "pure" Indian, and a "pure" Brazilian in a row, and the lineage/kinship is plainly evident).

Immigration is fine for this country, so long as the immagrants leave the "old ways" behind.
This nation was founded on religious freedom - the freedom to worship (or not) as one sees fit; we were not just "The Church of England Across the Pond," or whatever. In time, the idea of freedom was applied to all aspects of life (work, leisure, etc), and thus was born the greatest nation on Earth - because we were free to do what we wanted. (Within reason, of course).

This used to be a source of pride - before 1980, you NEVER heard someone referred to as an "African-American," or "Latino-American," or even "Native-American." They were all simply AMERICANS.
And it's pretty obvious who's behind the shift in "thinking" since 1980..............

Those damned "PC-Amerukaans!!"

[TNRighty]

Good point Groucho,

Based purlely on ancestry I guess we would all technically be hyphenated Americans of some sort.

Personally, though, I think all this hyphenated Americanism is going overboard. Jesse Jackson is no more African than I am. However, when you talk about true immigrants, i.e. those who were born in one country and now live permanently in another, I can well understand them having allegiance to their home. If you moved to Japan tomorrow, would you all of a sudden lose your American identity and call yourself Japanese?

On a more local scale, if I moved from Tennessee to Michigan, does that mean I have to stop rooting for the Volunteers and start rooting for the Wolverines? Of course not.

But on the other hand, if I move from Tennessee to Michigan and became uncomfortable being surrounded by Wolverine fans, I don't have the right to demand they start rooting for the Vols in order for me to feel at home in their state, nor should they be forced to abandon their midwestern dialect and incorporate the words, "ya'll" and "you'uns" into their vernacular or be forced to preceed the playing of Michigan's fight song with a rendition of Rocky Top just so I don't feel left out.

Anyways, that was just a simple analogy, but when you boil things down to something simple its often then when you see how rediculous things have become.

[USA50]

You know, Liberals dont care near as much about whether W lied about WMDs (interesting, though, isn't it - as it turns out, he was lying) as about him starting a disastrous, meaningless war over it (and conserevatives slobbering all over themselves to follow him at the drop of a hat [without, though, properly equiping the troops, and with lowering taxes during a 'war', and without any concrete proof of the weapons] before the inspectors could finish their job of looking.

It continues to be an interesting thing that you mention the British, who revealed in the Downing Street Memo (along with corroberation from many other sources) that Bush was determined to do anything to invade Iraq (they also recommended waiting) combined with the FACT that he was wrong about the weapons would lead any reasonable, thinking person to connect the dots and, therefore, assume he was lying.

Given all the other things he and his administration lied about, the first mistake anyone could make with W was to believe anything he said.

By the way, are you guys just enjoying your war to the nth degree?