Without that "stupid tradition", any gentleman today is boorish by anyone's standards. Once everyone works for themselves, is utterly independent, and needs no one's help, all social graces are maimed. Why be courteous in a woman's presence? They are, after all, the same as men. Why hold the door for a woman? They're just as capable of it. As a result, you have a rude and base society devoid of manners.
That's the BEST result of the feminist movement: now men have to either be nice because they are in fact gentlemen (not because of womens' dependency) or display themselves as pigs.
If you're really a good person, you'd hold a door open for someone because it's a nice thing to do, not because of some stupid tradition, or because it's part of the social order that keeps you on top.
Feminism keeps men on their toes, prevents the pigs among them from hiding behind tradition, and gives women the ability to walk away from someone who simply goes through the motions of being a gentleman when, in fact, he has absolutely no character whatsoever.
That was the most utterly crazed explanation of the tradition of holding doors for women I have ever had the pleasure to behold in my entire life. Why am I not suprised it came from our resident lunitic remedios.
Do you mean to tell me remedios, that back in the day, when this demeaning tradition was common place, every pig (obviously your sexest term for man) held the door for you? If they did I don't believe you would have your bigoted attitude towards them.
While were using nicknames to describe the opposite sex, I'd like to end this post by saying that I find your conclusion absolutly absurd, and that I will from now on refer to any ignorant feminist as a dumb sow.
War is cruelty. There's no use trying to reform it, the crueler it is the sooner it will be over. --William Tecumseh Sherman--
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." --George Orwell--
Feminism keeps men on their toes, prevents the pigs among them from hiding behind tradition, and gives women the ability to walk away from someone who simply goes through the motions of being a gentleman when, in fact, he has absolutely no character whatsoever.
Your thinking is totally off. If someone has no character then what makes you think that they would possibly uphold a character code? And why would you care if they were going through the motions? Can you really tell what someone really thinks?
War is cruelty. There's no use trying to reform it, the crueler it is the sooner it will be over. --William Tecumseh Sherman--
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." --George Orwell--
Do you mean to tell me remedios, that back in the day, when this demeaning tradition was common place, every pig (obviously your sexest term for man) held the door for you? If they did I don't believe you would have your bigoted attitude towards them.
First of all, please quote me saying that opening the door for someone is "demeaning." Where exactly did I say that? Oh, yeah, that's right, I NEVER DID. Your reading comprehension is obviously VERY POOR. Not surprising coming from a conservative.
Second of all, please quote me saying that every man is a "pig." Show me where I said this. Oh, that's right, you can't, because I NEVER DID. I said that SOME men are pigs, much like some women are, well, you can pick whatever word. Are you arguing that everybody has character? Are you stupid?
Your thinking is totally off. If someone has no character then what makes you think that they would possibly uphold a character code?
My point, dear idiotic friend, was that in the olden days ALL a man had to do to be considered a bona fide gentlemen was to hold open doors. And I'm sorry, but that's NOT character, it's politeness.
Character is not expecting someone to make sacrifices that you wouldn't make yourself.
You did say, dear sow, that men with no character followed character codes. People with no character don't care about being considered gentlemen stupid, get it straight.
I think being involved with gimpy driving you stupid.
Also, you labled me a bigot because I don't respect women who kill their babys, so saying you called all men pigs isn't to far from your dirty posts. Time to get off the computer and read a book, you might learn something.
War is cruelty. There's no use trying to reform it, the crueler it is the sooner it will be over. --William Tecumseh Sherman--
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." --George Orwell--
Actually, I called you a bigot because you clearly have very backward ideas of how women and men should interact. Abortion has nothing to do with that.
Yeah, but why would someone with no character go through the motions dummy?
Why wouldn't they? especially when it's all they have to do to be considered a man of good character. The fact that this is no longer enough forces men to re-evaluate their entire person and better themselves.
I thought you conservatives understood the effect competition has on product. Because of feminism, men are forced to compete more to get what they once only had to open a door to get. And that's a good thing, idiotic dinosaurs like you bedamned.
Listen, anyone who actually knows me knows I'm not a sexist. I hold doors for women anywhere I am. My mom works stupid. To lable me a women hater because I don't like people who are cowards and kill kids is crazy.
I still don't get how holding a door back in the day gave you a free pass to kick your wife's @$$ at home your resoning is insane.
War is cruelty. There's no use trying to reform it, the crueler it is the sooner it will be over. --William Tecumseh Sherman--
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." --George Orwell--
Okay. Tell me how I think women and men should interact genius.
Men shouldn't ask women to make sacrifices they wouldn't make themselves without making themselves indented to them at the outset. Now that women can and routinely do make as much money as men, the fact that men argue that women, as a rule, should still be the ones to stay at home with the kids belies the fact that they simply don't want to have to make the sacrifice they're asking women to make. Beyond that, these same men not only argue that women should be the ones staying at home, they argue we should do it and take their undying gratefulness as sufficient return for our sacrifice. Would you work for the eternal gratitude of your employer? Even if they gave you room and board? I DIDN'T think so. And don't give me that crap about continuing humanity, because men get to contribute to continuing humanity, AND secure their own sustenance, and be a fully functioning independent adult, none of which is true of women who trade careers for family. Gratitude isn't enough. You wouldn't take it, why should we?